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Saturday, August 11, 2007

The Runaway Train - Part 4


From: Shina
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007
Subject: I'm done

Maybe I'm overly sensitive and misunderstanding you but it seems you were upset with me tonight. First you question why I responded to the blog update without elaborating why you asked. When I asked you about it in chat you ignored me. Mr G and I are chatting about you this whole time, even threw you a few compliments, still no response from you. The only time you joined in was to correct me which was fine. Because I was sure she did ask that but if not my mistake.

When you cut and pasted her exact words and said you went back over the transcript. I asked if you saved the chats and IMs. But before I could explain why I asked you ( I was going to see if you'd send last night's chat to Mr G that way I wouldn't have to recap it and get something else wrong), you cut me off with your explaining yourself in detail statement finished with a Are We Clear? That sounded condescending as hell to me. So I told you I didn't like your tone and asked if you have a problem with me..you just leave.

I'm fine with you not agreeing with me about "nameless". I'm fine with you not agreeing with me about Anita and Katie. Really I thought it worked to our advantage because both bases where being covered. But I'm not fine with being spoken to like a child. The only time I've heard that expression was by a judge and even though he wasn't speaking to me, he was clearly using an authoritative tone.

You tell me time and time again to stop looking for the owners of that blog. You pointed out how I wasn't the lone ranger in this as if I thought I was or something. Then you agree I need a break from the blog. That damn blog isn't even about me and I was only trying to help, but to hell with it. I'm not so damn stupid to know when I'm not wanted or when somebody is only around to babysit me.

"Someone from misfitting asked me in private for the URL of the website that is harrassing you. ~Barbara - 1/27/07 @ 9:58 pm"

(What's interesting about this request is that Shina had only mentioned harassing phone calls and emails before Barbara's inquiry. I don't see any reference to a hate blog in Shina's 9:07 pm or 9:42 pm emails: Shifting Gears - Part 3

Either Barbara is telepathic or Shina was selective in what she chose to circulate. Considering Loretta and Anne were frequent visitors to the spite blog immediately after its inauguration, Barbara need only ask the misfits for directions.)

My email response:
To: Shina
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007

I don't have the time to run through your long list of complaints just now.

Here's my story. You will never have any idea how paralyzed I was when I saw the lyrics you posted at the pound. It completely knocked the wind out of me because I thought you brought them over from the bash blog when I read the word "update". I was suspended in time with all kinds of thoughts racing through my mind thinking this individual was a freaking dangerous maniac who was intent on scaring the shit out of me. I was convinced I needed to contact the FBI for crying out loud.

I did not understand your comments whatsoever so I checked my email to see if you sent me a copy of the update, but nothing was there. I couldn't imagine what was in the update that warranted such a reaction from you if that were the case. I had no idea what was going on. And you did answer me when I asked what prompted you to react that way in IM. If I remember correctly, you said, "Because I wanted to."

Not to mention that you and I had a couple of rounds about exactly what "nameless" said regarding Gene the previous night, yet you insisted on casting her in an unfavorable light. That isn't right. I really like you and have had some of the greatest chats with you, but I'm getting mixed messages that I do not fully understand. My nerves are shot. I'm taking a break. You don't have an exclusive on injured feelings.

(I sent an email to Max apologizing for leaving chat so abruptly. I explained that I decided it was best to leave the session before I said something I may later regret. Max replied that he understood and indicated he was also taken aback by Shina's conduct. He confirmed Shina's explanation with regard to her questioning whether I saved a copy of the chat transcript. I wasn't buying Shina's lame excuse in light of the fact she habitually modified the same details within hours of being cautioned. Furthermore, how did Shina know I wasn't paraphrasing?)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"oh and ps, anyone who thinks that Mrs V, Shippy or Sam (or anyone who is in similar shoes) doesn't have the right to take on whomever they perceive their "attacker" to be needs to have their own nose smacked a time or two.

You crack me up, Sam! That whole T chick thing was a good lesson in not putting 2 and 2 together and automatically coming up with 4. In this case it was 3.5 pppfffttt.

This whole internet stalking business, including impersonating someone's name in order to defame them, is a work in progress and perhaps these examples (as well as the millions of others out there I'm sure) will help in defining some more concrete laws in dealing with those who feel they have the right to do as they please on the internet." ~anony4damoment 02.08.07 - 10:02 am

“I want to know who the owner of the latest defamation blog is. I do. I can't help it. Blame it on either natural curiosity or call me an incredibly nosey person. I don't care. I want to know who has betrayed us now. We've always had a policy not to reveal RL info about anyone who posts here, but what about this person's nic? Is there anything wrong with revealing this person's nic?”
Anonymous 02.08.07 - 10:39 am

Also...I am curious about who set the new blog up too...I am confused about why it's a big "secret". ~Anonymess 02.08.07 - 11:07 am

“I don't think the identity of the person(s) responsible for the C-V blog is known for absolute certainty. At this point it is about 99% based upon a number of identifiable points which include clues from content and writing style and others. Not being like Loretta, those in the know are not yet willing to jump to conclusion based upon 1% doubt.” ~Anonymous 02.08.07 - 11:16 am

(A closer look at writing style:)

From: ”Tribute” Blog - Saturday, January 27, 2007 "Fuckoff and die."

From:
http://shina-hart.blogspot.com/ - Sunday, November 05, 2006
"---fuckoffanddieloretta---"


“I feel really sorry far Sam...she has had a really tough time with all of this, and now I don't think she knows who she can trust.”
are you sure 02.08.07 - 5:43 pm

“Sam...I am sorry you had to change your site. I enjoyed it and learned a few things.” ~Anonymess 02.08.07 - 7:07 pm

“I don't give a damn about Loretta and her gang anymore. I don't come here for them. I come here for the friends I've made because of them. If one of those friends is having a problem with Loretta, then I'm thankful BG keeps this place open for them to gather support from people who've probably been in their shoes. If comments slow down on the blog, that's fine too. To me it means all is well with everybody. I miss you folks though.

I hate how we can't share more of ourselves on here for fear of being stalked or what have you. Just when I think "oh great everybody has grown up" nooooo here comes another asshole packing an anonymous hate blog. People who still create anonymous hate blogs aren't worth saving from a fire. If they're too chicken shit to put their name on it, or contact their stalkee to work on the problem, then to hell with them imo. I'm in a mood. Hope y'all are having a better weekend than us. One of furbabies had to be put to sleep and I'm heartbroken.” ~Samantha 02.11.07 - 7:01 pm

“BabyGirl thank you for helping me through the past few days. You have no idea how much you've helped. You were right, it's good days and bad days. After the past two I'm praying for a good one tomorrow. I can't stop thinking about what we discussed on the phone about that lady and her family. I can't imagine having those fears and feelings. Lets talk soon K?

BTW, I don't know why the email can't be posted or linked here, hell maybe it can, haven't heard one way or another. But the last time I linked something that wasn't mine I got a long email telling me what a shit I was for doing so. This time I'm not taking any chances. Sorry I can't help those that haven't seen it.

Anyway I'm past the drama from both sides, still have opinions of course, but as far as giving a damn I don't. That is until the newer cowards grow a pair or a brain and claim their hate blog to work this shit out. At least the hobags over there put a name on their hate blogs. It's on these cowards to live with the fact they've stooped even lower than Loretta Serrano or Anne Curi. I'd rather be dead than to be known for that, just sayin.” ~Samantha 02.12.07 - 2:22 am

(The following is my response to an Anonymous poster who had addressed me earlier with some thoughts of her own and a few questions:)

“Dear Anonymous,
Recognizing that given the same set of facts people react differently based upon their personal experiences or beliefs. I will attempt to respond to your points through my perspective. My apologies for taking so long to reply.

Re: The Peterson trial
Personally, It doesn’t matter to me that Loretta wrote a blook about the Peterson case although I have no desire to read it. My lack of enthusiasm doesn’t stem from the fact that she’s the author, but because I followed the case, read the pertinent transcripts, and I’m satisfied with the verdict. What I fail to comprehend is the energy Loretta expends trying to convince people Mark Geragos is incompetent as though she’s Clarence Darrow. Does she think Scott Peterson was found guilty because of an unskilled attorney? It may be over for you and I, Anonymous, but not for someone who can’t accept criticism after positioning herself in the public arena. Particularly when that person painstakingly found fault with the competition. Something I have yet to see Catherine Crier or any other Peterson authors indulge in.

Re: Trader Joe and Muah
I don’t know why you feel these individuals screwed me over. I have not seen any evidence to support that theory. There has been what I consider irresponsible speculation, which could apply to either camp when analyzed with any degree of objectivity. Whether or not the above named negotiated a deal with Loretta doesn’t affect me. I did not participate in any mediation and I’m responsible for my own decisions.

Re: I don't care about Loretta, anymore
Neither do I, but when a person spends three years saturating a weblog with personal details of her life, she should expect that whatever information she chose to put out there is subject to controversy, commentary and critique. If Loretta thinks she can curb the scuttlebutt she herself introduced to the general public on so many venues, then she’s either out to lunch or has undergone a frontal lobotomy. What troubles me is that a nondescript exhibitionist from Ohio has the ability to compile and publish personal information about anyone associated with her target that are not involved with her professed issues.

(Note: It is not my intent to offend anyone with the links I post. They are merely examples of what is still circulating around the Internet compliments of Stalker Serrano.)

http://www.mailarchive.ca/lists/misc.legal/2005-10/3191.html

(Please note the spelling of "neighbor".)

It's astonishing to see so many trivial details compiled about one poster. It isn't normal. After viewing this moronic list, I do not blame the person for making a phone call." To be continued. ~Mrs V 02.13.07 - 1:19 am

“Dear Anonymous,
Re: I don't care about Loretta, anymore , continued.
Loretta Serrano is not tightly wrapped, but she’s isn’t alone in that distinction. She is, however, the only one I have seen in action and possibly the most prolific menace I have ever read about. As long as she continues to indiscriminately circulate and publish unauthorized personal information, she is a threat to society at large and a danger to herself. One of these days, she will most assuredly push the wrong buttons and pay the consequences. Until then, she has learned nothing. If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of Loretta Serrano’s troubles, she wouldn’t sit for months.

Once information is published on the WWW, there is no control over it. For example, a company called Bitacle thought it would be fun to make cache copies of entire blogs. If a "tribute" blog was created in your name, chances are it is still intact:

http://en.bitacle.org/

The longer the information remains public, the better the chances are of it falling into the wrong hands. The only solution I can think of is stricter laws that are carefully formulated in terms of not violating freedom of speech. Barring an epidemic of Amy Boyer cases, I don’t see that happening on a federal level anytime soon. However, Ohio’s statute is a step in the right direction considering it holds the primary source of the published information responsible. I have conclusive evidence that Loretta Serrano is at fault for the initial publication of my personal detailed information. If I were she, I’d be keeping my fingers crossed this nonsense doesn’t escalate any further.

Re: Do you have a goal in mind of what you want to accomplish at this point?
Yes, I do. My immediate focus is to protect my family’s privacy. As of last Thursday that mission is in very capable hands. I have every confidence the goals set forth at the meeting will be accomplished. In the words of Samantha Fox… “The best is yet to come.” The impostor can run that through her YouTube and push play!

PS – I’m not at all offended by what you have written and I thank you for being on my side, Anonymous.” Edited By Siteowner ~Mrs V 02.13.07 - 2:17 am

(Note: Until a few months ago, the Bitacle site had copies of all "tribute" blogs (including photos) that were published by TruthTeller aka Anne from Brazil. Bitacle has since disabled access to those archives. There is no doubt in my mind that another company will come along and do the same thing in terms of stockpiling and publishing complete blog archives. That's the nature of the Wild Wild Web.)

“BabyGirl Sorry to hear you're still sick with this crud. I called you earlier to see how you were feeling. Was hoping you were better by now. Guess not dang. When I got your message it was too late to call back so I didn't. I'll call ya tomorrow. Hope you're resting. Love You.”
Samantha 02.13.07 - 3:32 am

“hahaha. This should be good. Bring it on, Charlene. You are truly out of your mind.” ~loretta 02.13.07 - 8:14 am

“Dear Mrs V, Do you believe Loretta is still stalking?”
Anonymous 02.13.07 - 10:39 am

(Dear Anonymous, Nah! Loretta just has incredible timing!)

"It's astonishing to see so many trivial details compiled about one poster. It isn't normal. After viewing this moronic list, I do not blame the person for making a phone call."

“Heck, after seeing so many trivial details compiled about one poster, I’m inclined to send that poster a refund on the toll charge incurred for making that phone call. I do not believe that the majority of people who jumped down said poster’s throat were aware of just how psycho things were getting for her and her family.”
anony4damoment 02.13.07 - 11:25 am

“I can guarantee that if someone posted any information about my kids on the internet I would be taking a road trip to their house to kick their fucking ass. What's the word I am looking for?????? Oh yeah...Bank on it! Sorry for the language but just the thought of it makes me crazy.
Anonymess 02.13.07 - 8:16 pm

“Rather you are involved or not, you have friends and we are here. You are respected and cared for NOT for the Low/Misfuckers Jihad but for your compassion for others and the friendship you offer to those here who have been though the shit, are going through the shit or will be a future victim of the shit (or have yourself been a victim of the shit). Names aren't important here, just feelings.

Please take a moment out of your day to thank Admin for this place because without the people that came forward when I ask, there would be no Pound. They do all the work. They keep the place clean and they take no crap..but they are fair and loving. I lucked into a great thing and I will hold onto these people until they ask for their life support to be disconnected! (of course, I'll be asking them "what do I do now"?)

Nite Mabel, where ever you are sweet girl...my love and I miss you deeply. My darling Max who will always have my heart, Louise my mentor who I adore, Lola you brainy beautiful tramp you!, Pats and Papi, I could sit here all night and write great stuff about all of you fab people but my med's are kicking in so…” ~Baby Girl 02.13.07 - 10:21 pm

“Happy V-Day to all those true blue pound puppies and kitties.
Happy vd day to the skank ho trolls and impersonators.”
anony4damoment 02.14.07 - 10:57 am

“anony4damoment you done went and cracked me up. I say you did. I hope your ole man or woman supersizes your combo meal, actually pulls into a spot to eat so you don't have to balance your fries and ketchup in one hand (that gits on my nerves) and gits you the full dozen of prutty flawers. Happy V (without the D) day to you too!” ~Samantha 02.14.07 - 12:34 pm

(Sarcasm on steroids.)

“I missed a call from Sammy so if I miss her here too (left her a voicemail) just wanna say hope you and the babies enjoy! Please remember, it's not a sad thing, it's a reminder and a loving memory of a loving being.”
Baby Girl 02.15.07 - 10:27 pm

I logged onto IM approximately a week after the final email exchange with Shina. Max was already on and we connected. I was surprised to learn that he hadn’t heard from Baby Girl throughout the previous week. He sent her a text message to let her know we were in IM, but she didn’t respond. It wasn’t his only text message that would go unanswered.

In the days that followed, Louise joined Max and myself in IM. I believe Max brought up Shina’s name once to which I responded, “I hope you understand that I consider Shina a persona non grata.” I don’t recall any mention of Shina again... until the end of April. Contrary to what Shina says, I did NOT bash her, I simply put her on ignore. She hasn’t produced evidence to support her claims because it doesn't exist.

Friday, August 3, 2007

Shifting Gears - Part 3

The following represents what Shina Hart distributed on 2/2/07. Since posting emails is currently in vogue at the-pound.blogspot, I published those authored by Shina verbatim. The rest are paraphrased. Bold text = my emphasis.

Date: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:07 PM
From: Shina
To: Barbara
Subject: Why?

Barbara I'm not harassing Loretta or anybody else on the Internet or elsewhere. However my family is still getting phone calls, I'm being pulled into a hate war I want nothing to do with, and I'm getting emails. I want to be left alone and I'm going to do whatever it takes to make that happen. I'm into games and promise you this is not a game to me, not even close. Do you know who is doing this stuff if not Loretta? Because they're using Loretta's name. I just want this shit to stop once and for all.

Flashback:
"I'm on guard and waiting for the last shoe to drop.”
Shina 01.08.07
"IMO, Lori Serrano is worse than a Preying Mantis..."
Sooner (Shina) 01.10.07
"Just when you think Anne and Loretta can't sink any lower, they do..."
Shina/Sam 01.15.07
"You're the only assholes still running a hate blog you mental midgets.”
Shina/Sam 01.22.07
“Loretta you stink. Go take a shower or something bitch.”
Shina/Sam 01.23.07

(This was the first I heard that Shina received emails with Loretta's name. I don't remember her mentioning any other phone calls after the ones allegedly made in November. Furthermore, I don't have the foggiest notion how November phone calls tie in with a spite blog created a month later in December. Phone records are tangible evidence!)

Date: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:17 PM
From: Barbara - Subject: Re: Why?

Barbara stated that she believes it's a "Loretta Hater" who doesn't want it to end. She's known Loretta for four years and is certain Loretta is not behind what's going on. Barbara's afraid the perpetrator thinks poking Shina will keep it going. She cautioned Shina not to let them win through her. She declared that she's always had a special place in her heart for Shina ever since the story of the cockatiel. She counseled Shina not to let anyone pull her back into the negativity and signed off... Love, Barbara.

Date: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:42 PM
From: Shina
To: Barbara
Subject: Re: Why?

Thank you Barbara. I'd hope everyone had moved forward including Loretta and this Anne person. I've wondered if it's a so called friend who wants this to keep going too. But when I had two calls traced they traced back to Brazil which would be Anne which leads back to Loretta. Though I was made aware of software like vonage by the federal marshall looking into this mess. I wasn't lying as Loretta claimed about my family and whoever is stalking me this time will get busted.

I've never made contact with Loretta's family, job etc and took a stand against that route. I've apologized about my past behavior all I'm going to and if this person if not Loretta still has a problem they need to come to me. Do you think Anne is still gunning for me? Look I'll be honest with you, I don't think Anne is a real person but Loretta acting out using a fake persona. I realize these people are your friends but this has gone on long enough and needs to stop. Any problems I had with the "monkeys" and "haters" are long since forgotten and mostly worked out. I'll keep in mind what you said though. Thank you for taking the time to contact me, I truly appreciate your kindness. I wish the best for you and yours as well.

Date: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:52 PM
From: Barbara - Subject: Re: Why?

Barbara confirmed that Anne is a separate person. Although she doubts Anne is stirring things up, she couldn't swear to it. She said Anne posted comments about the "mutt" stuff again at misfitting that day. She emphasized that Loretta is not involved. She claimed that someone from the "other side" had created blogs to make it look like it was coming from Loretta or misfits. She didn't elaborate any further. She mentioned Loretta's awesome life based on positive thinking. She ends by asking how Shina's bird is and that she thinks about it a lot.

Date: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:58 PM
From: Barbara - Subject: Question

Someone from misfitting asked me in private for the URL of the website that is harrassing you. Barbara said she understands if Shina doesn't want to share.

Date: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:17 PM
From: Shina
To: Barbara
Subject: Re: Why?

I didn't know Anne brought up the mutts today at the blog, interesting. I try to stay away from Loretta's blog all together. Thank you for your honesty Barbara. Hitch is doing great. As a matter of fact he's on my shoulder right now lol. I'm so thankful he found us. I'm going to post a video and some new pictures of Hitch on my blog soon. You probably don't read it so I'll email you encase you want to see those.

I have a question though. If you know someone from the other side created blogs who was it? I only saw the one set that was created by Anne. I'm asking who they are because they may be my stalker now, the one using Loretta's name. I'm not at liberty to give the url because it's not in my name and was asked not to share it. I'm sure if you google my name you'd find it. Thanks again Barbara.

Date: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:33 PM
From: Barbara - Subject: Re: Why?

Barbara said she would love to have an email with an update. She went on to say that after the mess ended someone posted an address in the private area, which was blasting several people who posted at anti-Loretta sites. It was supposed to look as though it was being done by Loretta, but it wasn't. She can't recall the URL and never paid attention to it except for that one day. In fact, until Shina brought it up, Barbara didn't know it was still going on. She had no idea Shina was being harassed. She hopes Shina can get past them.

Date: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:13 PM
From: Monica - Subject: Re: Rude

Monica basically repeated what Barbara said about Anne being a separate person.
She stated that she hasn't a clue which site Shina is referring to. She's furious at the thought of anyone posting nonsense about Shina. Most of the misfits express a caring concern for her. Monica described the positive atmosphere in the kitchen and cautioned Shina to be wary of any friends on this side. She assumed Shina was the owner of the spite blog and the thought struck her funny.

Date: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:43 PM
From: Shina
To: Monica
Subject: Re: Rude

"To be honest with you, I felt like you were the owner of the Charlene blog. I actually thought that blog was funny if it was created by one of their own. LOL"

Whatever Anne or Loretta has told you about me is probably lies because you couldn't be more wrong. If Loretta has moved past her war with me good. Time will tell.

Best Wishes to You,
Shina

Date: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:48 PM
From: Monica - Subject: Re: Rude

Monica assured Shina that Loretta and Anne haven't spoken about her other than over a year ago when they were all trying to figure out who Spamming Samantha was. She articulated how the misfits gained a level of respect for Shina when she approached them trying to end the blog wars.

Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:46 AM
From: Barbara - Subject: Re: Hitch Pictures

Barbara claimed she doesn't know anyone still carrying a grudge against Shina. She followed up with Anne who denied doing anything or contacting anybody. Barbara said when she used an anonymizer, Brazil was one of the top servers. It's over and done with as far as everyone is concerned according to Barbara.

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Ok before anybody thinks or says I'ver changed teams I didn't. I was playing along trying to get information about Anne. I found both of the emailers condesending, sickening, an attempt to send messages of Loretta's fake great life (gag me) and full of lies-especially Monkey Monica. For some reason though I did believe them about Anne and Loretta not doing the hate blog this time.

Call me stupid but I just don't think it's them this time. It's bothering me so much about finding out who it is I've spent the past few days researching the blog itself, links from and to it, old posts by pound peeps past and present, usenet posts, google cache, shit you name it I've looked at it. And I swear to God I didn't want to think Anita, Katie, Andrea and Peace were behind this but after everything I found well I'm certain it's them.

We don't have to agree and honestly I love to be wrong about this. Maybe we can all get together and brainstorm one evening. The big tell tell to me was the comment fellow LHs and then the technorati tag. No way would Anne or Loretta put their own names on that blog.

Love to All,
Sam

Note: The blog is written in the first person. They are impersonating ME! What is so hard to understand about that? Who knows why they put those tags? Why does Shina have tags on her blog with two of her names, my name, and papillon? Shina has Technorati tags and widgets up the wazoo for crying out loud!

The following was posted simultaneously as Shina exchanged emails with the misfits.


"I'm in no mood for this shit and would rather she stop her bullshit right now but she won't. I've fucking had it with this crazy bitch. Loretta you and I are going to go one last round and what a goddamn round it's going to be! You will leave me alone one way or another I promise you that BITCH!"
Shina/Sam 01.27.07 - 10:00 pm

"Hey idiot who claims I'd be surprised to know who you are...fucking get over yourself. You're a loser and a COWARD on top of that! I feel sure you're Loretta Serrano but if not grow a pair and say who you are or just shut the fuck up!" ~Shina/Sam 01.27.07 - 10:16 pm

Saturday, August 4, 2007

The Runaway Train - Part 1

Meanwhile, back at The Pound, chaos erupted as posters frantically searched for a new blog created to harass Shina. Some were unable to connect the latest drama with the December spite blog; most likely because it isn’t in her name. At the same time, Shina’s persistent efforts to condemn her former friends intensified.

“I haven't been able to find those other blogs that were started. Are you sure they have been started or is it just a RUMOUR...I don't think they will.”
shrunken pug 02.05.07 - 12:12 am

“That blog isn't a rumor sadly enough it's very real and just as disgusting. Remember how nobody wanted kids involved? Lets just say there's a truly a screwed up mind at work on that blog. And what's even more screwed up is the finger doesn't just point over there anymore. Heart breaking really. I know as a group we've had our differences but I swear on my life I'd never protest that type of behavior just to turn and do the exact same thing to people I once called friends. I don't care how much I hated your actions. I guess anything is possible if the "friends" have a black enough heart though.
:shakes head:

I've make a lot of mistakes in the way I handle things with Loretta and others but thankfully I'm learning from my mistakes. And guess what? I didn't watch that stupid movie and claim I was healed, cured, or what have you. It's part of growing as a person and that just comes naturally to those of us with a human heart and desire to be better people. I gotta go start a load of dishes and laundry. That sounds like so much fun I may go blog about the color white before I allow myself such pleasures pah.” ~Anonymous (Shina) 02.05.07 - 1:03 pm

“Who is this person who is responsible for the new blog that bashes innocent children? Do we know? Does this person still read here? If this person has issues, why didn't they try to work them out here? Or did they? Is this the person who kept posting nasty shit late at night a few months back? Whoever you are, I wish you'd stop. Are you getting any satisfaction from this blog of yours? I seriously doubt it. Why don't you take it down?” ~Anonymous 02.05.07 - 9:40 pm

“Not at liberty to say yet, sorry. But rest assured if they update that blog again or fail to delete it within a few days the entire online world is going to know who and WHAT they are. Oh but these people are not just bashing the children, they're stripping them of their privacy, including their friends!”

Do we know?
"99.9% yes"

Does this person still read here?
"From what I've been told yes. :middle finger to the LOW life bitches:"

If this person has issues, why didn't they try to work them out here?
Or did they?

"They never tried to communicate with any of the three of us being targeted."

Are you getting any satisfaction from this blog of yours?
I seriously doubt it. Why don't you take it down?


"I ditto that comment. And will add this I'm offering you one chance to come to me directly and work out your grievances once and for all. That window of opportunity is closing soon. Your dealings with the monkey gang will seem like a vacation if you don't stop now. All without resorting to your LOW life tactics too. That's NOT a Threat.” It's a fucking PROMISE!" ~Samantha 02.06.07 - 4:33 am

“shaking head... wouldn't it be nice if everyone could just ... oh I don't know... grow up? backstabbing, two faced, vindictive... oooooooooooooooo I just want to shake someone by the scruff of the neck and spank their nose with a newspaper (and i don't care what side they were/are/might be on).”
anony4damoment 02.06.07 - 10:24 am

“I haven't seen any proof that anyone is stalking anyone...so until then...I'm keeping an open mind. I am not sure it it really happening...”
are you sure 02.06.07 - 7:25 pm

“If Samantha says it is happening, it is happening.”
Anonymous 02.06.07 - 8:23 pm

Shina Hart’s repeated use of the misleading term “children” while referring to young adults had become as irritating as her baseless irresponsible insinuations. I posted the following to "are you sure" in case she had been on vacation and missed the fundamental facts as we knew them.

I haven't seen any proof that anyone is stalking anyone...so until then...I'm keeping an open mind. I am not sure it it really happening...are you sure 02.06.07 - 7:25 pm

“Did you miss the children's names that were posted at Usenet? Did you bypass the ultimatum issued by the Brazilian bozo demanding Sam either call her or else a list of Sam's family members would be receiving long-distance phone calls?

Were your eyes closed when pictures of private residences were published, which had been lifted illegally from tax assessor's records? Do you think it's normal behavior to publish the name of a current target's son along with his email address and identify his friends that were located on a photo album? How about publishing a New Zealand IP and pretending it belongs to another target even when you know damn well it doesn't?

In your opinion, is creating a blog in someone else's name and impersonating that individual while undergoing psychotic episodes a stand-up thing to do? What proof will appease you? Phone records? Are you a law enforcement agent by any chance?” ~Are you serious? 02.06.07 - 8:36 pm

“to are you serious,
calm down, we know about those things you mention...it is the new blog that is suppose to be some where.” ~are you sure 02.06.07 - 8:41 pm

“Hey everyone! Just checking in, making sure everyone is okay. I was talking to Lola and Max last night about this wicked frigging cold/bird flu shit I have and how the Goon thinks that "sperm" cures everything... (snip) (I check in every day so if you need me, leave a message or contact Admin...who is doing a super great job aren't they? Applause for Admin! Yay!)

(To Sammy re: board going private) Hey Baby G Jr., I tried to call you last night, I left a message on Gawd knows who's voicemail, anyway, I'm sick so I'm in hiding but sign me up.” ~Baby Girl 02.06.07 - 8:42 pm

“I though it may just be someonw stirring the shit again...”
are you sure 02.06.07 - 8:42 pm

“Yeah, there's a new blog...blah,blah,blah but those in the know are working on it. I have my idea's about who is behind it but I'm keeping my mouth shut until they get it cleared up (and man, are they all over it!) I pity that bitch/bitches behind it but I'm also snorting at what's coming. We have some very smart pups in the joint...blows what little mind I have to tell you the truth!”
Baby Girl 02.06.07 - 8:55 pm

“They” = a majority of one! One who can't resist the temptation to always have the last word.

I haven't seen any proof that anyone is stalking anyone...so until then...I'm keeping an open mind. I am not sure it it really happening...are you sure 02.06.07 - 7:25 pm

I though it may just be someonw stirring the shit again... are you sure 02.06.07 - 8:42 pm


“Excuse me? If you would like to call me a liar and shit stirrer to my face I'm right here. Is that what your implying or am I mistaken?”
Samantha 02.06.07 - 10:57 pm

“BabyGirl of course you would be invited. Sorry I missed your call last night. I haven't checked yet but I bet you left a message on our company phone. Hope you're feeling better soon. When you feel up to it maybe we can do another three way with our mutual friend, good times. Huggles and Snuggles to you and the boys. To the anonymous' that stood up for me thank you so much. Thank God somebody really knows me around here.” ~Samantha 02.06.07 - 11:03 pm

Saturday, July 28, 2007

From the Beginning - Part 2

“Only have a sec but the Hag is on our Sam again...
Have at it Paws and Claws! Defend our own! Sam's Blog
http://mrsfalsepositive.blogspot.com/

Sam's comment section
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22632732&postID=116607596437994876&isPopup=true
Baby Girl 12.15.06 - 12:38 am

“Rock on Pound! Take no shit but family first! Just saying if you get a chance to check in, make sure our ladies are okay. In between breaking up the fights and taking care of your own homes of course." ~Baby Girl 12.15.06 - 12:53 am

“Niters Ladies, You all and I do mean all, mean so very much here. Rather you're a Mouse or a nic...I am glad to know you all! Francesca aka BG”
Baby Girl 12.15.06 - 12:55 am

Loretta posted comments at Shina's site relative to the newly created spite blog, naming the honoree, all the while vociferously disclaiming ownership. The fact that Loretta already had knowledge of the “tribute” blog was a significant revelation in my opinion. I reasoned there were only three logical conclusions as to how Loretta knew about the blog. #1 - She was involved in its creation. #2 - Someone that had been alerted gave her a heads up. #3 - One of her supporters saw the link at TP. Considering the link had been deleted in a matter of minutes, I felt #3 was a long shot.

The inquisitive flocked to Shina's blog to watch the drama unfold. When a poster requested a link to the offending site, Shina willingly provided it. While the link to the offending URL remained in Shina's comment section for hours, Loretta's comments relative to the spite blog were deleted. Now that the floodgate was open, the newly constructed spite blog became the focus of everyone's attention and as traffic flowed from that site to Hall of Shame all hopes of isolating an adversary’s IP connected with the spite blog were dashed. The first IP that arrived at Hall of Shame via the grudge blog was an AOL user.

As BG confirmed in her 12:38 am comments, it had always been the The Pound's policy to defend our own. This basic principle was consistently adhered to by admins in terms of disabling links to bash sites against any of us that were posted at The Pound and other forums under their administration. I wondered why Shina would break tradition and undermine a group effort by posting the URL to the new "tribute" blog at her site. I took my concerns to email sending copies to the admins I had originally contacted to avoid any misconceptions.


12/16/06 - I wrote:
Hello Shina,
I'm sitting here wondering if I have done anything to offend you?

I know I sent you a copy of my email warning everyone about the new spite blog. I mentioned that I thought Anne would attempt to post a link to it and that we should thwart such an attempt. Admin did, in fact, delete the link at the pound when it was posted. Although you and I haven't talked about the situation, I felt you understood my position. Today I am completely stunned to see you posted the url at your blog. I'm practically speechless because I would never have done it to you. I also sent you an email asking if you could provide the email addy for Blogger.com so I could complain to them. That request went unanswered.

In situations like this, I sit back and wonder if I've done something to upset you. I can't recall anything of that nature and so I'm at a loss to understand your actions. I thought we were friends.

12/17/06 - Shina wrote:
We are friends. I didn't mean to upset you by linking that blog, people wanted to know what they had done to upset us again so I showed them. I didn't realize it would upset you this much and for that I am sorry. I deleted the link. The information on that blog was listed at your old hate blog so again didn't see the harm in allowing others to see what this crazy woman is up to.

You haven't done anything to me but be my friend. I'm sorry I made you feel any other way. I haven't answered your email because I'm still looking for the email address to blogger. If I had to guess it's either abuse@blogger.com or help@blogger.com I hope that helps. Also it takes me about 10-15 minutes to get charter t o finally send and email so sending a quick reply isn't possible.

Charlene I am so sorry I hurt you. Am I wrong or was this email to me and about me but you sent it to everyone? Nevermind.

12/17/06 - I wrote:
Shina, I doubt if I can make you understand the range of emotions I went through at seeing the link posted at your blog. At first there was self-doubt because I swore I had included you in my "IMPORTANT" e-mail, which warned everyone about what I discovered. While I didn't save every email pertaining to that conversation, the ones I still have confirmed that you were included in each transmission. That's why I assumed we were all on the same page in terms of how we were going to treat this.

While there was a previous spite blog dedicated to me, every admin has been cautious about readily disabling all (spite blog) links that were posted on the various forums. The names were also x'd out if I remember correctly. You have undoubtedly noticed that I x out people's names who are not part of this drama, particularly family members who were publicly identified by the misfit thugs. Admin also deleted this particular link as soon as it was posted at the pound. An explanation was given on that forum as to why the new spite blog should be ignored. I, myself, hesitated to post a link to your blog (mrsfalsepositive), which I think is tastefully done, until I determined there was a rapport between yourself and current posters.

This time around someone is impersonating me and I am on my own in working though it while protecting my family from needless exposure! I have never publicized my last name online and don't intend to start now. My family has NOTHING to do with this and shouldn't be on the public auction block I have no clue how Loretta found out what my last name is and I really can't concern myself with her methods at this juncture. I do know that this deranged person is looking for attention and I will not give her the satisfaction at my family's expense, despite the requests of curiosity seekers.

Shina, I sent copies of my e-mail to everyone because that's what I originally did when I discovered the blog. This time I added a cc: for another email addy of yours because I thought my request for the blogger addy had possibly gone to one that you may not access on a regular basis. I can't keep track of which address people prefer to use. I also wanted to be sure that everyone understood my position, since I wasn't sure that you did, thus saving myself keystrokes. I was at the hospital with my neighbor until midnight last night, I had to go Christmas shopping today, and celebrate my son's birthday when I returned. I am pressed for time just like everyone else. I also had no idea if you would respond.

Seeing that link posted was a real kick in the teeth to me. My mind raced with all kinds of possibilities that I was unable to reconcile. Then I noticed that Loretta's comments had been deleted and I couldn't understand why. I'm not the type to act on impulse and I really try to think things through without jumping to conclusions, but I decided it wasn't looking good for me. I figured somehow I had done something to make you angry and it bothered me all day. I'm so relieved that isn't the case.

I appreciate and accept your apology, Shina. Life is stressful enough without harboring ill feelings because of misunderstandings. Cool heads always prevail, which is why that piece of shit from Ohio will never get the best of me. I'll deal with her on my terms, not hers. In the meantime, you and I can move forward with a mutual respect for each other. It's the only way to go!

PS - THIS email IS strictly between you and me unless you feel differently.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“Sorry Admin I tried to ignore Hagatha but that only lasted a couple of days. E for Effort? It's just the more I thought about it the more I laughed and had to thank the bitch. It's not much but I do believe it's her way of saying she misses us. Because you asked and you run this joint and all I'll refrain from saying anything ELSE. Ok ready set ignore.” ~Samantha 12.15.06 - 3:48 pm

Friday, August 15, 2008

Because in Center Field - Part 1

As I stated in Part 1, of "Why's in Left Field", Chase Home Finance filed a “Motion for Relief from the Automatic Stay” requesting that the court allow foreclosure proceedings against Joint Debtors, Kenneth Michael and Chrishina Leann Hart.

On 5/23/07, Judge Paine issued a Notice of Preliminary Hearing and Prehearing Order outlining the procedure to be followed at a court hearing set for 6/11/07.

The Joint Debtors responded to the motion on 5/27/07 alleging they failed to make timely payments because the mister was out of work for awhile, but had since become employed again. The Debtors paid the back payments claiming they could stay current.

Counsel to the Standing Trustee of Chapter 13 responded on 6/1/07, stating that the debtors were in noncompliance with the Plan since they were not making payments as agreed. Therefore, the Trustee did not oppose the Motion for Relief from Stay filed by Chase Home Finance.

Recap:

5/19/07 – Francesca’s understudy, Shannon, staged a preposterous ruse with specious allegations that I killed The Pound as she encouraged anyone interested in taking the reins to contact Goombahs Inc@AOL.com.
(Hint: The apple didn’t fall far from the tree.)

5/19/07 – Chrishina Leann Hart published a windy fictional tirade against me raising concerns among the mutts.

5/20/07 – In a melodramatic appearance Francesca assured everyone the show would go on.

5/20/07 – Chrishina published what appeared to be yet another exit speech adding to her perpetual list of farewells.

5/21/07 - Chase Home Finance filed a “Motion for Relief from the Automatic Stay”.

5/23/07 - Judge Paine issued a NOTICE OF PRELIMINARY HEARING AND PREHEARING ORDER.

5/24/07 – Ship Wreck wrote: “Just returned to read a disturbing post from "Shannon": EXTRACT: Thank you Lola, BG sends you all the best

“From my perspective, Lola had nothing to do with any thoughts BG may have about closing The Pound. BG, if I am wrong, I'm sure you will let me know.”

(Note: This query went unanswered along with ShipWreck’s previous emails and text messages to Francesca.)

5/27/07 – The Joint Debtors responded to the Motion for Relief.

5/31/07 – The diva of dipsticks returned from a week in Hawaii and picked up precisely where she had left off:

“I'm back! I had a great time in Hawaii. My balcony overlooked Waikiki Beach. The waves, the surfers, the weather---like a dream. We rented a Mustang convertible and drove all over the place. I feel like a new woman. Now, where's Samantha?”
Countess Blockquotessa 05.31.07 - 12:09 pm

“And where is Samantha? Samantha, Samantha, wherever you are, I miss you. I haven't a clue who Lola is, but I hope she didn't scare you away. I love you Samantha and I miss you. And I miss Patsy, too. Is there any chance Patsy is Lola? God, I hope not. I love Patsy, too, and I miss Patsy. Patsy, where are you?”
Contessa Blockquotessa 05.31.07 - 9:27 pm

“Bartender, tell me. Is there a war going on between Lola and Samantha? If there is, is there any way we can do anything to fix it?”
Contessa Blockquotessa 05.31.07 - 9:34 pm

“As for Samantha and Lola, please quit dukiŮg it out behind the scenes. Come join me for a drink. Let's work this out.”
Contessa Blockquotessa 05.31.07 - 10:35 pm

To which Chrishina Leann Hart responded:

“Hi! How sweet of you to miss me ((hugs))! I miss y'all too and still pop in daily but no time Ŵo comment. Life hasĠme on the move I tell ya. But I had to make time tonight because I read some comments earlier that I felt needed first hand answers and because my internet connection will be off just any day now I'm sure. We asked for it to be disconnected over a week ago so yeah any day now I'll be without a connection. Whoopee!

No Lola isn't Patsy, not even close, Patsy has class. I am not fighting with Lola or anyone on the scene, behind the scene or at the "bar"...promise. First of all Lola knows better than to start a war with me or at least she better. She can run her mouth all she wants about me behind my back as she does but the first time she brings it to me well it won't be pretty. CLEAR THREAT of I won't take your shit dere OR PROMISE LOLA you pick. But until then she doesn't concern me in the least, no really not in the least. Sticks Stones Words Dumbasses ya know.

But I am taking a break from the freaks of web that have made it their business to fuck with me. Even though I couldn't give two shits about them :roll eyes: I know me well enough to know that I will go full fledge crazy bitch if I don't just shut down the net entirely and get away from them. I've tried avoiding them haha jokes on me since they're Obsessive Mentally Ill Professional Stalkers (or is that sickos?). Fucktards sums them up quite nicely I think. Yup Fucktards.

I've finally had my fill of the liars, control freaks, stalkers, fucktards and in general bored bitches with no (love) life to the point that the next bitch who 'gets in my face' would be quite surprised how fast I'd get in their face fo' real. Yeah it's that bad and I'm that SICK OF THEM and I have the means to travel and just enough "fuck it" to do it. No no not that! Just a knock knock hey Fucktard ya wanna say that shit to my face bitchslap kinda thing. So um yeah I need a break before I have record! And I'm only half kidding, that's the fucked up part about the whole thing since I'm normally a quite peaceful person in real life even to those who cause me stress. HAHA anyone who read my blog knows that BS LOL.

I do miss you all very much! Email me for my phone number so we can keep in touch! Hartsbabiesinc at aol dot com. We put in our pool, started our furbaby haven and our closest real life friends moved into our neighborhood! Oh and our home business finally took off faster than a babydaddy! No shit. We're happier than pigs in slop and busy busy with life. So please don't think I'm fighting or unhappy because I swear to you I'm not. For the first time in years I'm honest to God happy. I hope the rest of you are doing great and please know I'll never forget the real friends I made here...never couldn't if I tried. ((Hearts You Dearly))”
Samantha aka Chrishina 06.01.07 - 4:37 šm

Whose absence would not make the heart grow fonder?

“I'm so sorry you've had to deal with all that shit, Samantha. I'm going to miss you, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Hope your business is a smashing success. And maybe sometimes, if you're at a friend's or the library, or some place with Internet connection you can stop by and say hi y'all. Stay happy.”
Contessa Blockquotessa 06.01.07 - 12:52 pm

When Contessa finds OZ, let's hope the wizard has an extra brain to hand out.

1. There is no "home business".
2. Lola did not run her mouth off about Chrishina behind her back.
3. Anita and company did not create the bash blog.
4. Barbara and Monica claim the misfits love Chrishina, so who is stalking her?
5. How many have waited a week for their Internet service to be disconnected?

6/1/07 - Because the Joint Debtors were in noncompliance with the Bankruptcy Plan, the Standing Trustee of Chapter 13 did not oppose the Motion for Relief from Stay filed by Chase Home Finance.

"The provisions of a confirmed plan are binding on the debtor and each creditor.
11 U.S.C. § 1327. Once the court confirms the plan, it is the responsibility of the debtor to make the plan succeed. The debtor must make regular payments to the trustee, which will require adjustment to living on a fixed budget for a prolonged period. Alternatively, the debtor’s employer can withhold the amount of the payment from the debtor’s paycheck and transmit it to the chapter 13 trustee. Furthermore, while confirmation of the plan entitles the debtor to retain property as long as payments are made, the debtor may not incur any significant new credit obligations without consulting the trustee, as such credit obligations may have an impact upon the execution of the plan. 11 U.S.C. §§ 1305(c), 1322(a)(1) & 1327."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Up to a point a man's life is shaped by environment, heredity, and movements and changes in the world about him. Then there comes a time when it lies within his grasp to shape the clay of his life into the sort of thing he wishes to be. Only the weak blame parents, their race, their times, lack of good fortune, or the quirks of fate. Everyone has it within his power to say...

"This I am today; that I will be tomorrow."


~Louis L'Amour

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

One more thing...

A google search of my legal name produces results from Haloscan comments for ‘babygirlsbrutus’. I would be remiss if I didn’t reciprocate.

Francesca Carmen Franzese, owner of The-Pound Blogspot, can either remove all references to my name or grab a long straw and suck it up as I have.

Should Fran Fran choose wisely, I would be happy to remove her name from this site.

I notice the mutt from upenn.edu likes to google Francesca and is a frequent visitor to this blog during office hours. Perhaps she will relay the message.


~~~

Monday, July 23, 2007

Bliss Maybe?

From:
Shina Hart Takes a Stand Against Cyber Bullies, Abusers and Stalkers V
"4. July 18th 2007 Charlene Vxxxxxxxx uses Shina Hart's subdivision's name Rolling Acres in a lame attempt to intimidate her."

Thanks to Shina Hart for admitting she is Chrishina Leann Hart.
That’s all I needed!

Correction: Chrishina Leann Hart is married to Kenneth Michael Hart.
Shina must be a “subdivision name”. Rolling eyes!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Continued from "Love and Marriage":

Usenet: Samantha (Chrishina Hart) - 11/9/05 @ 4:07 pm
Loretta wrote: I will. I switched to heroin a long time ago. Didn't you get the memo? Sorry! Ahhh. Tonight when I chase the dragon the water will turn to cherry wine.

Leave it to the crack whore to make jokes about such things, pathetic. Have you visited the Detroit bridge recently?

Usenet: Samantha (Chrishina Hart) - 11/11/05 @ 12:13 am
Loretta wrote: Too bad you'll never find us again. Too bad you will never be able to troll my blog or spam me again. We are having a great time without you!

The fact that NO ONE else can find you is the point crack head! Have a great time HIDDEN in the kitchen, nobody cares!

Usenet: Loretta – 11/11/05 @ 12:28 am
How many times do I have to tell you that it's HEROIN. We don't have crack in Pleasantville. Do you know what "Chase the Dragon" means? Look it up. If you are stuck on stupid, at least try for something like "blow." We can live with "blow." It was all the rage in the 80s and early 90s, albeit cut to nothingness if you didn't have a good source. If you mix powdered cocaine with powdered heroin, you get a whole 'nother ballgame, Sammy. Google it. At least get the drugs right. I know you are fixated on certain pieces of fiction and are in love with the word "crack" and derivations of it, but it would behoove you to get it right for once. If you're going to call me a junkie, at least make it interesting. Or at least TRY to get a fact straight for once in your life.

Usenet: Samantha (Chrishina Hart) – 11/11/05 @ 12:36 am
Loretta you're correct I know nothing about drugs because I have never done them. Or even associated with people who did. I am a clean troll with clean troll friends, jealous much? For once you figured out some truth about me. However, the fact remains you're a crack whore, who abuses her children.

Intake
28 Jun 2005 by Hart's Wife
Today started out hectic, but it mellowed out by the evening, thankfully. First, I went to my intake, and it went well. I already like the therapist they assigned me, she seems easy to talk to. And that's important in this situation ...
So Said Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com


Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes
28 Jun 2005 by Hart's Wife
Yes, I do realize I change the blog design faster than my mood. And your point is? Have I mentioned I'm mental? Well I am. I spent the entire day doing as little as possible. I didn't plan it that way, but you know shit happens. ...
Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com


Tomorrow, Tomorrow, I Love Ya.....
17 Jul 2005 by Hart's Wife
Tomorrow is my appointment with my new drug dealer, YAY! I get my much needed refills! Hopefully more powerful drugs while we're at it, crossing fingers. The drugs I take now well they're ok, but they don't work for anxiety, ...
Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com


This and That....
18 Jul 2005 by Hart's Wife
Today I met with my new doctor, and she is just fab. She told me thoughts I have, but wouldn't admit to, and she made me cry. I know that sounds depressing, but it wasn't at all. For the first time since my diagnoses I feel as though ...
Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com


Looking Up
27 Jul 2005 by Hart's Wife
Our central is fixed for the time being, yay! The ebay scammer had to pay us back the money he stole, yay! We've have half of the money we need before the end of the month, yay! And I may qualify for another type of disabilty, yay. ...
Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com


I Need Drugs Now!
1 Aug 2005 by Hart's Wife
Last night was a bear! I couldn't sleep, read, watch TV or slow my morbid mind down. All I could do was yawn, pray for sleep and be miserable. I hate being bipolar, I really really hate being bipolar. I do not wish the hell upon anyone, ...
Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com


I'm so *seepy*
4 Aug 2005 by Hart's Wife
I worked my arse today and now I'm almost too tired to blog anything. But I will give it my best shot. Today started with the usual grumpy morning bullshit between me and Mr. HW. I'm sorry but I don't understand his screwed logic ...
Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com


What is Bipolar Disorder Really?
21 Aug 2005 by Hart's Wife
I was up till 5am this morning reading another woman's trials with Bipolar Disorder. After I read and absorbed her writing, I started questioning what Bipolar really is. At times I could relate to this woman, but most of the time not. ...
Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com


I'ma Cheese Eater
September 02,2005 06:43 GMT
I've not been blogging because I'm in a strange place right now. I haven't been doing a lot of anything really. What I wish I'd do is finish painting this house, paint our new front door, clean the yard. Start decorating for fall. ...
hartswife.blogspot.com/2005/09/im-cheese-eater.html

BINGO
12 Sep 2005 by Hart's Wife
I'm sorry I've not updated lately. Thank you to those of you who emailed me and posted to let me know you were thinking of me. That always warms ones heart ya know. I'm starting to feel somewhat better, but I'm still really depressed ...
Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com


Shina Hart
14 Feb 2007 by Chrishina
For the record isn't anything like what Loretta Serrano claims.
Shina Hart - http://shinahart.blogspot.com/


Usenet: Samantha (Chrishina Hart) - 11-07-2005, 03:37 AM
Loretta (Serrano)wrote: Let me remind you, Samantha, that every threat you make is being documented for the police.

Fuck you and you reminding me about a damned thing you sick fucked in the head bitch! Call the police! Call the pope I no longer give a damn! Got that? You don't skeer me with your empty threats!

Loretta wrote: The police will be very impressed with my incredibly thorough documentation and links to your harassment. Be warned if this continues, you will be charged. Your little game needs to end now.

As they will be with your stalking and harassing of so many people! I may have trolled your bog as a joke, but I never fucking paid anyone for information about you! I never stalked you nor have I cared enough about you to do so, until now! You LowBitch have crossed the line. Like I said be ready for the hell that is about to come down on your head! Did you get that? Let me repeat it for you once more.......

BE READY FOR THE HELL ABOUT TO COME DOWN ON YOUR HEAD!!

Usenet: Samantha (Chrishina Hart) - 11/11/05 @ 12:49 pm
Loretta wrote: It's only a matter of time before I post your name and location, Samantha. Any day, now.

Ok as long as you know it, LMAO! That was funny too, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE LAUGHS crack whore! Hell what's stopping you from doing it right now? Post away! Tell you what, I DARE you to post it! How's that? Are you a bad ass or are you a coward? Lets see........waiting.

At which point, Loretta Serrano proceeded to publicize the identities of various posters including their personal relationships, none of whom were Samantha (Chrishina Leann Hart). The reproductive cul-de-sac then jumped through hoops in analyzing the gestation period of one individual’s pregnancies in conjunction with that person’s marital status. YAWN!

I reference the above because I am just now reading this patent nonsense at Usenet for the first time. I’m embarrassed to admit that having minimal knowledge of Chrishina's previous posting history, I relied on the judgment of others in regard to Chrishina Leann Hart’s character.

A lesson well learned.


"Anyone who imagines that bliss is normal is going to waste a lot of time running around and shouting that he has been robbed. Life is like an old-time rail journey - delays, sidetracks, smoke, dust, cinders, and jolts, interspersed only occasionally by beautiful vistas and thrilling bursts of speed." ~Jenkins Lloyd Jones

Lucky Shit That I Am
25 Jun 2005 by Hart's Wife
Sis and I had another close call tonight. On our way back from Cenntennial's Emergency Room (more on that later) we ran into a road block. Since I was driving, and my license have been suspended for unpaid speeding tickets, ...
So Said Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com


Originally published on Friday, July 20, 2007
at Bloggers' Hall of Shame

Sources for the technically challenged:

http://tinyurl.com/2dmspx

http://en.bitacle.org/blogs/blogsearch/hartswife

Oh look! Google allows sorting by date!
Isn't modern technology a time saver?

Wednesday, August 8, 2007

The Runaway Train - Part 3

Shina’s 7:41 sinister remarks set off an internal alarm. I had growing concerns relative to Shina’s unpredictable behavior and this post validated my anxiety. The song lyrics blatantly depict raw violence; and since they were enclosed in blockquotes I didn't know if they represented an actual update from the spite blog or a hostile response. Apparently I was the only person who couldn’t grasp the meaning behind Shina’s deranged comments inasmuch as no one else questioned it. That alone should have raised a red flag.

“Mentally Stunted Stalker with the most power blog evah! OMG you're so brave and just down right skeery. I quake in your mighty presence. Your update has me rattled! It's so so so forceful...just wow. Hopefully I'll recover. Please Ms Stalker have mercy on me even though I don't deserve your pity.”
So when you see me on your block with two glocks
Screamin _Fuck the World_ like Tupac
I just don't give a fuuuuuck!!
Talkin that shit behind my back, dirty mackin
tellin your boys that I'm on crack
I just don't give a fuuuuuck!!
So put my tape back on the rack
Go run and tell your friends my shit is wack
I just don't give a fuuuuuck!!
But see me on the street and duck
Cause you gon' get stuck, stoned, and snuffed
Cause I just don't give a fuuuuuck!!
“Please accept my lame response which is no where near as pathetic as yours. Hey at least I tried to keep it on your level. I get bonus points for that right? www .youtube.com (there was a link.) Unlike you I didn't need the written lyrics. I'm still young and can HEAR the music ahem. Because I care, no really I do, I'm supplying the "meat" of the song for you. You don't get hip hop, it's ok, it's not for everyone. But when you want to use it to "speak" to people, you should have some knowledge of it just sayin'. If had taken the time to understand the song you posted....well you wouldn't have used it Next time stick with a more familar era like Ms. Summers :snort:

PS Don't trust your "source" darling. Oh you forgot this isn't my first rodeo heh!”
Samantha 02.07.07 - 7:41 pm


The next two comments only added to the confusion...

“For those who watch the video. Isn't it ironic that it's starts with a wicked granny bullying a child? Ms Stalker, You really do want to be just like them over there don't cha? You didn't think their actions were bad. You were just insanely jealous you wasn't invited to their tree house to play. If there's somebody to be pitied, it's you.” ~Samantha 02.07.07 - 7:49 pm

“Since finding out who Ms Stalker is I'm now officially bored with her. Hide and seek on the Internet is only fun when you have a worthy opponent. Ms Stalker has proved to be a rather large disappointment.” ~Samantha 02.07.07 - 8:16 pm

"Come on, Samantha, quit being so nice. Who is it? I'm dying to know."
Anonymous 02.07.07 - 9:01 pm

I contacted Shina through IM. She was in high spirits in contrast to her agitated state the previous evening. She was excited about an upcoming shopping spree because she had $5000.00 at her disposal. The announcement came as a mild surprise since she had recently indicated that her financial status prevented her from reinstating her driver’s license as well as putting a damper on any further investigation of the alleged phone calls.

I most likely congratulated Shina on her reversal of fortune and then I cut to the chase. I explained that I was confused by her posts at The Pound. I questioned whether the lyrics she had referenced actually came from the spite blog. When she replied in the negative, I then asked what on earth prompted such a hostile reaction from her. She didn’t seem to understand the question, so I repeated it, “What made you respond the way you did?” Shina’s explanation: “Because I wanted to.”

The discussion was interrupted by an invitation from Max to join chat. I had been following an interesting news story with Max and when I entered the chat room, he provided links to either updates or related articles. I went to the URLs and read.

When I returned to chat, I scrolled back to catch up. It was shocking to read how Shina continued to misrepresent the facts in defiance of being advised otherwise. As she slammed “nameless”, her version was saturated with exaggeration, distortion and flat out lies. It appeared as though Max was buying her propaganda. As I caught up to the end of the transcript, Shina was once again repeating the falsehood I had corrected her on.

I wrote: “That is NOT what was said.”
Shina wrote: “What was said then?”

After I transmitted the exact phrase, Shina asked if I had the transcript. I replied, “NO, I don’t have the transcript.” I reminded her how we had gone a few rounds over this very same detail last night. I spelled out how I scrolled back up and copied the exact words before logging off because I sensed it still hadn’t sunk in with her. I ended with, “Are we clear?”

When Shina responded by saying she didn’t like my attitude and suggested I had a problem with her, I left chat. As far as I was concerned, any further discussion would be an exercise in futility. I had corrected her over and over the previous night and she still couldn’t get it straight. It had nothing to do with a faulty recollection, it had everything to do with the reality that the truth didn’t conform to her agenda. If her memory was that deficient, how did she recognize that I transmitted the precise words? I could have been paraphrasing for all she knew. There’s only one answer to that question. Shina remembered exactly what was said, but chose to lie about it.

Notice how Shina changes her tune AFTER the dispute. Again, she integrates November phone calls with a blog that was created a month AFTER the calls were purportedly made. . .


”Sam...I noticed on the below link from Ms. V that your name is no longer on that blog. ~Anonymess 02.07.07 - 9:04 pm”

“I'm still on that ridiculous excuse for a blog. It's always been clear I'm not their main target. And really they don't say anything bad about me on it. What pissed me off was number one they were attacking my friends. Number two they had the nerve to call me and somebody in my family. I wanted the bitches to know they had my full attention.

Now that they can only post videos, lyrics and other idiotic bullshit for fear (cowards..eh) somebody will recognize their writing styles, I couldn't care less about them. They've been spayed with a butter knife...Youch! Sucks to be them.”
Samantha 02.08.07 - 12:58 am

”Come on, Samantha, quit being so nice. Who is it? I'm dying to know. Anonymous 02.07.07 - 9:01 pm”

“Oh trust me it's not me being nice, I'd exposed them long ago. Because I respect the wishes of my friends they will remain nameless until everybody is ready to out them. Or until the cowards get a backbone and put a signature on their blog...yeah right.” ~Samantha 02.08.07 - 1:06 am

LOL, how considerate! But, whatever happened to that 99.9% vote of confidence?

"sammie - u can ignore dat email i sent you bout the T chick... problem resolved. many t'anks do. lmao... it be hard to type in accent huh?
anony4damoment 02.07.07 - 12:05 am"


“Honeychild let me tell ya. :dramatic fanning of my face: I gets so flustered trying to keep up with y'alls big city speak, I nearabout have an episode. So I know how ya feel when taking on somebody elses accents. I've give it more than one thunk over about riting dem English people about their so called proper speaking ways. Well I swanny there aint nuttin (that looks ugly but it's not meant thataway) proper about having episodes trying to carry on a conversation with big city folks. It's darn right embarrassin at times, I say it is.

Its mighty refreshin to see somebody besides myself 'round here appreciate us southerns and tha pains we go through to express ourselves. I want ta thank you precious for tha smile you brought to my face. Bless em aint dey sweet yall?”
Samantha 02.08.07 - 1:45 am

“See dar? I done forgot da oder part of your post because I was so overwhelmed by your understandin. Bout that T person. I was all confused but now Is not. Thanks very much for lettin me know it were ok for me to be confused bout dat.”
Samantha 02.08.07 - 1:50 am

Sarcasm in overdrive!

Sunday, January 27, 2008

Why's In Left Field - Part 5

If you buy into the notion the “shitload of fun” did a 180 to absolve her friends of Loretta’s wrongful accusations you are an easy sell. The undeniable truth is that only one person benefited from the notorious covenant with Loretta Serrano… namely, Chrishina Leann Hart!

Accumulating more mileage than the 200 leading presidential contenders, Chrishina campaigned vigorously across the Blogosphere clarifying her 5/25/06 pledge of: “No more emails, posts, two faced people, strangers on the internet, no favors, no phone calls, no contact from anyone involved regardless of who it is”

The “stupid troll” headed straight for Anne Curi’s publishing empire where she registered a complaint at KCL’s active Tribute blog as her own spite blog was suspended. Her criticism was duly noted in a commentary dated 6/1/06 @ 20:53:48 by the Brazilian editor-in-chief, which essentially outlined the merits of bipartisan cooperation.

http://tinyurl.com/yrvvoy

Some perks arrived through Chrishina’s inbox with amazing speed in the form of purloined communiqués that had been confiscated by Loretta when she hacked into her sister’s email account on 5/27/06.

From: "Loretta S." lorettas2@cox.net
To: "Shina" shinahart@charter.net
Subject: Peace/Deanna's Email to the Mutts about you
Date:Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:58:08 -0400

From: "Loretta S." lmds@visn.net
To: "Shina" shinahart@charter.net
Subject: More Lovely Tidbits
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 09:46:41 -0400

From: "Loretta S." lmds@visn.net
To: "Shina" shinahart@charter.net
Subject: Andrea's Blather
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 09:48:19 –0400

Andrea’s “blather” consisted of shock and dismay concerning recent events, yet she felt bad for Shina. She mentioned that someone in the group hoped Mike was aware of what was going on and would be supportive and watchful. JA was angered that Chrishina blamed Cathy for fueling the flames at LH2, a venue where its been said Ms L rarely participated. Katie speculated that Shina was driven by some misguided rationale and asked for everyone’s patience in sorting through the problem. Anita spoke of compassion and understanding along with expressing fear that Shina may do something to harm herself.

Peace was more reflective in her observations as she tried to make sense of what happened. Peace wrote that “Sam” had not responded to the last email she sent her. She tried calling Shina from work but the number was no longer in service. Peace explained how she feared for her sons, herself, and her job when Loretta blamed her for things Shina had posted at Usenet. Peace recalled when she began doubting the veracity of Shina’s claims and couldn’t distinguish fact from fiction due to so many discrepancies. In short, Peace was as baffled as everyone else.

Four beleaguered friends trying to comprehend the logic behind what happened. Friends, Chrishina had isolated herself from. Friends she would publicly castigate five months down the road. Friends she eventually blamed for the creation of another Tribute Blog that clearly has her own butt prints all over it.

Had Chrishina kept her pledge and rode off into the sunset, the theory that she wanted to be left out of it forever may have been believable. As it turned out, that wasn’t the case. Within one month the Tennessee traitor furtively executed yet another U-turn by actively participating at The Truth Tree, a blog operated by the individual she blamed most for keeping the flame war going at LH2.

She authored comments under various nics: Admin, anonymous, Diamond,
#1 Bitch, Designer Elf, H20Lover, Night Watch Elf, Keebler Elf Too, Happy, SickandTired, Calling CPS, and Corky.


“Testing 123”
Admin (Shina) 07.04.06 - 12:11 am
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“Ick! Do we have to put up with rabid monkeys over here as well? I can understand at LH but here? Just asking.”
Diamond (Shina) 07.09.06 - 11:04 pm
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Apparently Chrishina’s agreement with Loretta Serrano was non-binding. Curiously Shina’s spite blog remained closed as the rest were periodically updated.

I remember when KCL confronted Chrishina at The Truth Tree and how shocking it was to learn Shina had been participating anonymously after announcing her retirement from the blogosphere. The incident triggered a heated discussion most of which is no longer available at the site. Posters considered it an issue that should have been resolved through email rather than Miss Loveliness’ blog. The problem with that option is Chrishina had closed her email account in May without leaving a forwarding address.

Miss Loveliness diffused the situation with the following:


“Though I've not spoken to Samantha personally, and did experience some minor discomfort over her brief association with the Lowest, I can understand how she was duped by Loretta. Even I, who at varying times throughout the last decade of continuous BS, have found myself wanting to reach out to her and feeling somewhat sorry for her. I, who know this woman's MO very, very well. Loretta’s days of squeezing any sympathy from me are now, good and over. All I'm saying is, Loretta has a grand talent for sucking the most seasoned of adversaries into her world. I feel Samantha is making amends to me, and I have forgiveness in my heart, given knowledge of the circumstances. Though not the popular opinion, I'm leaving the door open for Samantha to read or post, and anyone who is willing to be truthful and respectful of others here.” Miss Loveliness 07.22.06 - 4:45 pm

KCL was amenable.

“Thanks for that clarification Miss L. This is your House and I respect your rules/requests/etc! By now I know how to step over all kinds of things or step around or in some cases step ON but I will respect your requests.”
katiec**lady 07.22.06 - 5:27 pm

Baby Girl chimed in…

“As for Sam...I'm not gonna get into that. We had our say. It's done.
Now what are the rest of you sluts up to?”
Baby Girl 07.23.06 - 8:48 pm

Chrishina was boorish.

“This is just sad. A few of you are allowing your black heart of hate ruin Miss L's blog and chance to tell her story. Show some respect girls and stay on topic! This blog is not about Samantha, Katie, or Neps Mom got it? It's about Cathy defending herself against the lies of Loretta Serrano. Respect that or leave!”
H20Lover (Shina) 07.23.06 - 10:25 pm
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That’s a complete turnaround from: “Sweet Sister you know who that is too. I believe she is feeding people a lot of lies and is keeping this flame war going. I lay most of the blame on her for this blog (LH2) still being active at all. ~5/27/06”

By 8/14/06, Chrishina was welcomed at The Pound.

“Thanks for the welcome.”
Sooner (Shina) 08.14.06 - 12:45 am
24.183.203.150

Where she kept a low profile as the resident disc jockey.

DJ Sooner (Shina) 08.14.06 - 5:57 pm
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In October 2006, Chrishina circulated the following announcement:

Original message from Shina - shinahart@charter.net

“I'm going to try blogging again. Anybody who wants to read it
here's the web address http://mrsfalsepositive.blogspot.com/

If that bitch Loretta and her gang show up I'm going to drive to OH and kill her period.

BG I updated the fur entry. Thank you girl for all you've done. I like blogging and wish more of you had blogs hint hint. Its a great way to keep up with each other's lives. Love that and you!. If you want me to help you set up a blog email me. I'm not the best or worst out there but I'm free.

Hugs,
Shina"

It was around the time Shina told us she had found Mgt, who turned out to be Mtnwmn. We all know the outcome of that fiasco. Nobody asked Shina to go looking for either Mgt or Mtnwmn, in fact everyone was perplexed that she had. And when Mntwmn pursued the matter, Chrishina, whose name can be rearranged to spell LIAR Cant Hash Her Inn… LIED!

Response From:: Shina Hart aka http://shina-hart.blogspot.com/
---------------fuckoffanddieloretta---------------
11/03/06 - Mtnwmn / Darragh

“Most of those people were clearly never my "friend", others still are. Is that what gives Loretta and Vero the right to harass target and threaten me? Even though I'm not welcome to post at any of the blogs for at least six months now. I have turned my back on this situation many times only to be dragged back kicking and screaming by your pal Loretta. Why that bitch won't leave me alone I'll never know. Maybe you know?

Why do you assume it's me that is posting your picture? Even if I tell you it's not you're going to believe it is because Loretta and Vero say so right? Loretta and Vero love to attach my name and image to shit that has never been done or posted by me. So yes Mtnwmn I know exactly how it feels and is why I posted what I did on your blog as Chin Up.

My actions are mine I "owned" them (and yes some where very hard to own), apologized to both sides and ceased any involvement. That was until Loretta continued to target me. I'm not bothering Loretta on the net at any blog. I had to create this blog to address her and Vero's lies on the blog they created to harass and threaten me. If they would stop their bullshit I wouldn't have anything to bitch about here.

I don’t know you lady and don't have any problem with you except your implying its me thats harassing you. If reading at your blog is harassing you well then maybe I am guilty gah!”

What a piece of work! The “stupid troll” not only lied, but also assumed the role of victim! Posting comments at Darragh’s blog as “chin up” was ludicrous. She certainly didn’t curtail her participation at the blogs, in fact, I’ve never seen anyone jump from the frying pan into the fire with as much enthusiasm as Chrishina Leann Hart all the while her Tribute blog was in hibernation. The following sample of Chrishina’s handiwork is a reliable indication the shyster had way too much time on her hands:

"Breaking News
This just in...... It appears the fucktard and her monktards had glamour shots taken while at Lisa's for her birthday party. Not that big of a deal? What if I told you we got our hands on copies of those hidden glamour shots? ::please put on your protective eye gear now::

The Watson Elf, Lie-sa
http://thumbsnap.com/v/u6XRypzK.jpg
CountryGirl, Hooterville Ho
http://thumbsnap.com/v/fzubAga9.jpg
Ronni, Vero
http://thumbsnap.com/v/qHXkzo8h.jpg
Loretta Serrano, Loretta Dillon, Misfit, Fucktard, too many nicks to list
http://thumbsnap.com/v/k8DafTPQ.jpg

::Blink::
Back to you Murphy."
Corky (Shina) 08.30.06 - 4:29 pm
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I remember the first chat session I participated in with Chrishina in attendance. She said she had learned how to compile a slide show and provided a link to demonstrate her newly acquired skill. The album contained images that morphed into the distorted photos above. If Shina was waiting for compliments she must have been disappointed. No one in the session expressed approval.

The turncoat most assuredly didn’t express regret to KCL when she shed her “DJ Sooner” disguise AFTER the spite blogs were closed all the while refusing to accept apologies offered.


http://tinyurl.com/2w448y

She never addressed Andrea or Anita directly, instead she grumbled about the context of the emails Loretta forwarded to her SIX months prior:

“I received several emails from Loretta that were written by some of you about me. How did she get those emails? Ask her sister. I didn't have access to Mimi's email account and sure as hell never provided the passwords to Loretta. If you want to blame me for Loretta being rotten and hacking her sister's email account well that's fine too. My point for bringing that up is this....I read what some of my dearest and closet "friends" said about me behind my back. Discussing whether or not to call my husband and tell on me? My husband and I are the best of friends, he knows who I am online and offline.”
Samantha (Shina) 11.14.06 - 8:08 pm

That’s a distortion that doesn’t even resemble what was actually written in those emails. The Tennessee twit must have expected her "friends" to organize a parade in her honor!

“Where was Katie and Anita when my bash blog went back up because of their blogs about Loretta?”
Samantha (Shina) 11.15.06 - 12:00 am

Both Katie’s and Anita’s Tribute blogs remained active during the six months Chrishina’s was mothballed. What made Shina think either of the two were under any obligation to soothe her fragile psyche after what she had done? The reality is that Chrishina, herself, commanded the grand reopening of her Tribute blog!

FLASHBACK!

I have moved my url and changed my name in hopes to shake a few ...August 31,2006 17:41 GMTI have moved my url and changed my name in hopes to shake a few stalkers (Loretta Serrano), but they have proven they love me too much to leave me alone, poor fucktards. Thus making me a crazy fucktard stalker magnet~pah such is life ...michaelandshina.blogspot.com/2006/08/i-have-moved-my-url-and-changed-my.html

Loretta Serrano Dillon is an EVIL BITCH!
October 14,2006 04:56 GMT -I imagine my hate blog that Loretta Serrano Dillon runs at www.shina-hart.blogspot.com will be back up and in business because you will see this as my "asking for it". But in truth I had left you alone and you as of today continue to ...shina-hart.blogspot.com/2006/10

Shina Hart Fights Back - Since Loretta Serrano Dillon claims she is not the owner of these hate blogs created to harass, bully and stalk, lets see how long it takes for the Shina Hart hate blog to come back to life! Watch with me Loretta Serrano Dillon's Hate Blog Created to Stalk and Libel Shina Hart if you like! - by beingshina in Shina Hart Fights Back

Last, but not least, Chrishina ambushed Peace, the person who initially took all the hits from Loretta because of what the bag of rat sputum, the person whose name can be rearranged to spell LIAR Chant Inner Hash, had written at Usenet.

Peace responded:


“I haven't been here in several days. I was informed of Sam's post to me. I went looking for it, not expecting at all what she wrote, and found it quite disturbing. I wasn't going to respond, but have since decided to.”

“This is to Peace and Peace only.”
Why didn't you send this to me in email?

(That’s a great question considering the kibitzer had a different set of standards for herself.)

(“If anybody has a problem with me period my email is still shinahart at charter dot net. Out of respect for the pound crew take it to my email please and thanks.”
Sam 12.04.06 - 11:39 pm)


“You've hurt me deeper than Loretta or Katie ever could. You pretended to be my friend to suit your own agenda. We spent hours on the phone, emails and chats. I trusted you with things I've never told another living soul. You claimed you were closer to me than anybody else at the blogs.”

I never pretended to be your friend, I WAS your friend. It had nothing to do with my own agenda. When ever I added my say to any of the conversations in emails about you, it was that I didn't believe you did it what you did on your own.; I always said I believed you were set up and that there were others helping you and that I really was lost (from not following closely) at why so many were blaming just you. I also said that I didn't think Loretta hi-jacked the emails from anything you gave her, but that I felt she and her sister had come to a truce prior and that emails were gathered from that truce. At the time, I'm sure I was closer to you than anyone else...... at the time.

“At the same time you were the one who outed me to Loretta with your angelmommy post.”

No. Sam, you are so wrong about this. And you know it. Others had posted about your blog and your baby before I did. I did not out you. When I posted anything in regard to that, I did not use your name nor did I use mine. I was on your side, defending you completely. I had seen the blog and I knew others that had also. I said it was a beautiful, sad, at times happy, and a very therapeutic blog. Sam, we were both outted by someone else and we both know who that was. Why are you saying all this now and so differently than the way it actually happened?

“I made excuses for that by saying you were upset and didn't realize what you posted about me even though I asked you not to.”

Sam, Loretta and others had already posted about it. Loretta said derogatory things about you, your baby and the blog. Others had mentioned it. If you recall, I only said good things about it and even then I didn't use your name. I didn't even know it was your blog and had in fact forgotten about it until Lo brought it up. You know I was trying very hard to defend you and to show others how compassionate you are and how much you and your blog were helpful to others that had lost a baby. As I told you, I had found your blog, long before, through a link at one of Laci's memorial sites.

“I overlooked it because I trusted it was a mistake.......... even though you wouldn't talk to me on the phone, email or IM.”

It was NOT a mistake. I spoke as, and for, a RL friend of mine who had also seen your blog. She had found tremendous comfort from you and others that posted there. It was just one of the many things you had done to help others anonymously, that many here didn't/don't know about.
As you know, I have a very busy RL . From the bashing I received from "U-NO-HOO" and her telling me how furious you were.... (even tho my post was immediately removed after I posted it), and that she admitted to contacting you and telling you her version and interpretation of why I posted what I said, I chose to go away from everything at the blogs, for awhile. I could definitely see where it was going, due to her having to get involved in it, in a negative way and causing tension between us.
Peace 11.15.06 - 5:33 am

“While I was being exposed and blasted on the blog I was behind the scenes trying to make sure you were ok because you exposed me.”

Again. I did not expose you nor was I the one that exposed myself. Loretta and others had already posted about the subject and your blog and your baby. Someone else did the exposing for us.... and we both know who that was.

“When I was exposed by Loretta you never once stood up for me on the blog but before I was exposed in email, phone and IM you were my biggest supporter. You lied and said I allowed Loretta to blame you for things I done on the blogs and at usenet. Peace that wasn't true and told you many times I would out myself to Loretta, your boss or whoever to stop her for blaming you. You asked me not to!”

I don't remember saying that nor even feeling that. Please show proof if I'm mistaken. It was there for all the world to see, that you defended me and stated that you weren't me and that I hadn't posted all the stuff Loretta accused me of posting. Why would I say otherwise? I really do not know why this is coming from you now, but I have my ideas of from where it's coming. I thought we had hashed and re-hashed all the confusion and settled all the misconceptions months ago.

“I asked you not to share my photos with anyone so many times just to have another person you sent them to contact me to tell me how pretty I am.”

You know damn well and so do all the others here, that I NEVER sent a photo of anyone, especially you, at anytime, to anyone, including you.... without asking permission first. Why even say that? If anyone has a pic of you, from me, YOU said it was OK!

“When I was dealing with Loretta exposing me on the blogs you remained silent. But when Katie blasted me on the blogs you supported her and went so far as to call me a liar. You also said you were closer to Katie, Anita and Andrea than anyone else on the blogs in public.”

Sam, Common. Please be serious and truthful. When did I ever call you a liar. Liar isn't a word I use, especially about someone I care(d) about. Ask all the others if I didn't say many times, that I didn't think Sam was to blame completely. Nor that I had all the details...(I had been away right before). If anything, I defended you, but also said I understood why others were angry. I didn't understand completely, at the time, and I still don't, why all the emotional outbursts and name calling.
Peace 11.15.06 - 5:34 am

“But in private it was me and you spoke poorly of your real friends. It wasn't that I had to be the closest friend to you, it was that you lied to me and said I was.”

Who were the real friends I spoke poorly of? I agree there were some POSTS that both YOU AND I spoke about and laughed at and couldn't figure out and thought were weird..... but really, who did I bash or say I didn't like? Are you talking about in the beginning? When neither of us knew anyone very well? Wasn't it when, so long ago, no one was a real friend, but were just other people we "met" with whom to bash Loretta? I haven't spoken to you since I've felt I've become close to anyone here.

“It wasn't that I had to be the closest friend to you, it was that you lied to me and said I was. You had me believing you hand my back, and that you really cared.”

You WERE my closest friend, Sam. And yes, I meant it when I told you that you were. And you were, until you and the other poster blamed me for something I did, and turned it all around, when I thought I was helping you.

“But in truth you talked the worst about me behind my back. You used me to gain information about your other friends. You lied to my face! You shared my secrets with your real closest friends.”

OMG... SAM. To whom did I talk the worst about you behind your back? Of whom, what friends, anyone, did I try to gain info about? When did I lie to your face? And what secrets did I share? Are you sure you don't have me confused with someone else? Or that maybe SOMEONE ELSE has told YOU some lies? I'd prefer some actual details, than just these generalizations. I'm totally lost here, by all your accusations.

“Peace when I said I cared about you I meant it. I wasn't trying to use you to gain inside information. That will always hurt but I forgave you on the phone while you were lying to my face about what you said about me in those email.”

I never felt you were trying to gain inside info from me. I know very little info anyway and I surely don't go looking for it nor do I try to make anyone tell me secrets about others. I'm too old for this and I have a very busy and fulfilling RL, to figure out what all is going on here. The thing I hate more than anything, is for the friends I have made, on "both sides" to be angry at each other. That includes friends I made at Misfits, at Psyche's Knot and all the blogs I've contributed to, since.

“Yes Peace I knew you were lying but I didn't care, because I cared about you the person more than any blog war. ~Samantha 11.14.06 - 8:08 pm”

I wish you'd point out the lies, because, as usual, I'm very much baffled. Not only by what you've posted here, to just me, but by a lot of other stuff being said and taking place. I did apologize to you and to NM a few days ago, for any hurt I caused you, when you both did what you thought was right in helping end the war with Loretta. I was and still am confused about all the details. Obviously, you don't accept my apology.

And since I haven't been following all what's taking place here, now, I am very much confused about all the tension between all of us. And all the accusations and the bringing up of "old stuff." At one time or other, all of us who've been here from the beginning, and who Loretta has outted, have been highly emotional... angry, sad, embarrassed, ecstatic and a lot at different times. We have reached a goal, regardless how and by whom... Loretta has changed for now and for that, we should all be partying together. Not fighting about stupid details about who, what, when and how. And certainly not bashing each other. Not NOW!!!!
Peace 11.15.06 - 5:35 am

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“And I swear to God I didn't want to think Anita, Katie, Andrea and Peace were behind this but after everything I found well I'm certain it's them.”
~Chrishina Leann Hart (2/2/07) - sooner@doglover.com


"When a man points a finger at someone else, he should remember that four of his fingers are pointing at himself". ~Louis Nizer