Gone With the Wind

Hide and Seek!

2008-12-19T00:00:00.004-05:00

I find it amusing when people attempt to mask their identity by utilizing anonymous proxy servers for the purpose of lurking at Internet sites. One cloaked visitor of late caught my attention due to the fact that the preferred mode of transportation was through a service called, hidemyass.com, a site that claims:

"Your IP address will be hidden and changed to our address located in Texas, USA. Your IP address is your online identity and hiding behind ours using the free proxy will enable you to become anonymous."

VISITOR ANALYSIS
Referring Link: http://www.hidemyass.com/
c-76-117-94-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net (76.117.94.83)
Pennsylvania, Aston
Comcast Cable Communications Inc
IP postcode: 19026 [Drexel Hill]
IP address latitude: 39.948200 IP address longitude: -75.305496

MSIE 7.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return Visits 7
4th December 2008, 10:01:19 PM - www.hidemyass.com/
w2.hidemyass.com/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL2dvbmUtd2l0aC10aGV3aW5kLmJsb2dzcG90LmNvbS8%3D&hl=0

The IP did not originate from Texas as hidemyass promised. And while my detailed report indicates the region is Aston, Pennsylvania, the postal code along with coordinates pinpoint the IP to Drexel Hill, a distance of about twelve miles from Aston and some 1300 miles from Texas. All of which had no significant meaning to me other than the fact that hidemyass is not a reliable proxy server. As far as I can tell, the only item hidemyass obscured is the link to the URL the visitor requested. The proxy redirected the link back to its own URL, which is a clever way to have the foolhardy advertise their site!

What was baffling, however, is that seven visits had been logged for this IP, and since deceptive people have a tendency to be sloppy, I thought it worthwhile to take a second look at my stats. For lack of a better term I shall refer to the anonymous visitor as ‘Sneaky’.

I learned that all records for pa.comcast.net reported as Aston, Pennsylvania with matching system specs as listed above originated from Drexel Hill unless otherwise noted.

MSIE 7.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return Visits 6
8th November 2008, 02:25:44 PM - www.youhide.com/
www.youhide.com//nph-info.pl/000110A/687474703a2f2f676f6e652d776974682d74686577696e642e626c6f6773706f742e636f6d2f
IP postcode: 19018 [Clifton Heights]
IP address latitude: 39.922100 IP address longitude: -75.294502

MSIE 7.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return Visits 5
14th October 2008, 07:04:44 PM - gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/

Multiple visits, MSIE 7.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return Visits 3
7th October 2008, 08:28:10 PM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/
9th October 2008, 09:11:56 PM - www.youranonymousproxy.com/
www.youranonymousproxy.com/Default.aspx

MSIE 7.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return Visits 2
23rd September 2008, 10:38:12 AM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/

Oops! Sneaky didn’t fare much better with youhide.com or youranonymousproxy.com, but Clifton Heights surely rang a familiar bell!

For over a year I have had a guest whose visits with a Clifton Heights IP were so frequent that, at times, she was in a dead heat with the irritating Contessa for frequent lurker miles. Subsequent to a casual reference concerning her visits in my August entry, the Clifton Heights IP abruptly dropped off the radar screen.

That is, until Sneaky got messy!

dhcp026.dental.upenn.edu (128.91.202.126)
Pennsylvania, Clifton Heights
University Of Pennsylvania
IP postcode: 19104 [Philadelphia]
IP address latitude: 39.959702 IP address longitude: -75.196800

MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 800x600, Return Visits 0
2nd October 2008, 12:47:59 PM
Entry Page: bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007/06/visit-from-google.html
Exit Page: bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007/06/visit-from-google.html
Referring URL: www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1613071&highlight=Papillon

What’s interesting about this particular record is the referring URL. In August 2007, a few of my entries were posted in a private area at the Websleuths’ forum. Non-members are denied access to the area. The fact that Sneaky searched for ‘Papillon’ at that forum indicates she had knowledge of the thread’s existence and is a member of Websleuths. It’s also confirmation that Sneaky continues to prowl the Internet at work, all the while visiting my site with her flimsy disguises after hours and weekends. To be certain this is the same cyberslacker and because all stats before September 23rd are long gone from this site, I reviewed the records for ‘Good Timber’, which doesn’t accrue much traffic, where I found an identical match dating back to 2007.

dhcp026.dental.upenn.edu (128.91.202.126)
Pennsylvania, Clifton Heights
University Of Pennsylvania
IP postcode: 19104 [Philadelphia]
IP address latitude: 39.959702 IP address longitude: -75.196800

MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 800x600, Return Visits 0
21st December 2007, 09:09:34 AM - www.blogger.com/profile/10443435392664598198
goodtimber.blogspot.com/

Note: Prior to December 2007, Sneaky's cyberslacking IP was:

Host: node4.uphs.upenn.edu (165.123.243.168)
Region: Pennsylvania, City: Philadelphia
University Of Pennsylvania
IP postcode: 19104 [Philadelphia]
IP address latitude: 39.959702 IP address longitude: -75.196800

Multiple visits, MSIE 6.0, Windows 2000, 1024x789
27th August 2007, 03:49:35 PM - www.blogger.com/profile/10443435392664598198
goodtimber.blogspot.com/
26th September 2007, 09:18:08 AM - www.blogger.com/profile/10443435392664598198
goodtimber.blogspot.com/

I can’t imagine why anyone who is employed by an Ivy League institution would occupy his or her time with such juvenile conduct, yet a 2005 survey indicates that employees in the field of education ranked #4 in the top five ‘time wasting industries’.

America Online and Salary.com conducted the in-depth research related to time wasted at work. A team of Certified Compensation Professionals analyzed the data and the results are stunning. Salary.com calculated that employers spend $759 billion per year on salaries for which real work was expected, but not actually performed.

A staggering figure although calculated in 2005, still overshadows Obama’s economic stimulus package.

Survey results:
http://www.davidsonstaffing.com/articles/salary/wasted-time/

Personal Internet use topped the list of distractions by respondents at 44.7%. The Insurance industry leads the group of slackers by admittedly wasting an estimated 2.5 hours per day. That’s roughly 1.5 hours in excess of the time Human Resource Managers expect workers to waste. As for time-wasting excuses, “Don’t have enough work to do” finished first at 33.2%.

Cyberslacking in the workplace is not only a productivity and financial problem; it’s an inherent liability risk for employers as well. An employer may be accountable for employee’s posting defamatory material if the employer is the Internet Service Provider. Most companies have established policies governing computer and Internet use. In fact, Upenn has a comprehensive list of Computing Policies.

Quote: Each person with access to the University's computing resources is responsible for their appropriate use and by their use agrees to comply with all applicable University, School, and departmental policies and regulations.

Speaking of risks, Wikipedia explains the hazards involved when using anonymous proxy servers.

Quote: When using a proxy server all data sent to the service being used must pass through the proxy server before being sent to the service, mostly in unencrypted form. It is therefore possible, as has been demonstrated, for a malicious proxy server to record everything sent to the proxy: including unencrypted logins and passwords. Whenever a proxy is used you are at risk that someone "in the middle" can read your data.

In fact, Norton Safe Web analyzed hidemyass.com for safety and security problems and identified three threats to computers.

https://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?name=hidemyass.com

So, not only are anonymous proxies such as hidemyass ineffectual, but they potentially expose the user to sniffing proxies in addition. I have little sympathy for the habitual lurker who assumes they are pulling the wool over my eyes. And now that I know Sneaky is a Pound mutt by proxy, I’m inclined to be even less charitable. I don’t know why Sneaky is so obsessed with me, but when a person’s virtual addiction requires camouflage the rational conclusion is those visits are not of a sociable nature!

Get a freaking grip, lady! If you don’t want to be seen visiting a site, don’t go there. It's really that simple!

A link for cyberslackers:
http://www.ishouldbeworking.com/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Another impotent proxy I found while reviewing stat records.

0 seconds, Firefox 3.0.3, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 0
Warren Rhode Island United States
19-109.193.popsite.net (66.19.69.109) [Nashville, TN]
IP address latitude: 36.145802 IP address longitude: -86.784401
15th November 2008 01:13:09 AM - patsyspalace.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2008-11-12T23%3A37%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=2
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/

13 seconds, Firefox 3.0.3, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 0
New York United States
04-182.193.popsite.net (66.217.161.182) [Nashville, TN]
IP address latitude: 36.145802 IP address longitude: -86.784401
22nd November 2008 04:26:03 AM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/
22nd November 2008 04:26:16 AM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/

A location match from Good Timber dating back to 2007.

26 seconds, Firefox 2.0.0, Windows XP, unknown
Nashville Tennessee United States
adsl-154-196-150.ard.bellsouth.net (72.154.196.150)
IP address latitude: 36.145802 IP address longitude: -86.784401
3rd July 2007 05:08:59 AM -
proxyfoxy.com/index.php?q=uggc%3A%2F%2Fjjj.oybttre.pbz%2Fcebsvyr%2F10443435392664598198
proxyfoxy.com/index.php?q=uggc%3A%2F%2Ftbbqgvzore.oybtfcbg.pbz%2F
3rd July 2007 05:09:25 AM -
proxyfoxy.com/index.php?q=uggcĥ3A%2F%2Ftbbqgvzore.oybtfcbg.pbz%2F
proxyfoxy.com/index.php?q=uggc%3A%2F%2Ftbbqgvzore.oybtfcbg.pbz%2Ffrnepu%3Fhcqngrq-znk%3D2007-06-27G09%253N32%253N00-04%253N00%26znk-erfhygf%3D1

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
While reviewing stats for this entry it became obvious that Sneaky isn’t the only one with way too much time on her hands!

AOL Insomniacs!

17th October 2008

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-af10.proxy.aol.com (205.188.117.74)
17th October 2008 02:42:33 AM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-ah13.proxy.aol.com (205.188.117.205)
17th October 2008 02:43:18 AM - gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-ae10.proxy.aol.com (205.188.117.14)
17th October 2008 02:57:58 AM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-ag06.proxy.aol.com (205.188.117.134)
17th October 2008 02:58:17 AM -
http://www.blogger.com/navbar.g?targetBlogID=3356222045673218643&blogName=Gone
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/search?q=stupid redneck

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-ab06.proxy.aol.com (205.188.116.70)
17th October 2008 03:00:59 AM -
http://www.blogger.com/navbar.g?targetBlogID=3356222045673218643&blogName=Gone
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/search?q=mess with me%3F

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-ah01.proxy.aol.com (205.188.117.193)
17th October 2008 03:04:56 AM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/search?q=mess with me%3F

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-ag10.proxy.aol.com (205.188.117.138)
17th October Ĳ008 03:05:57 AM - gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/search?q=mess with me%3F
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/2007/09/got-mail.html

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-ae09.proxy.aol.com (205.188.117.13)
17th October 2008 03:08:52 AM -
http://www.blogger.com/navbar.g?targetBlogID=3356222045673218643&blogName=Gone
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/search?q=intake

Multiple, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-ab01.proxy.aol.com (205.188.116.65)
17th October 2008 03:13:53 AM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/search?q=intake
30th October 2008 04:55:34 AM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/2007/11/whys-in-left-field-part-2.html

Multiple, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768 , Return 1
cache-dtc-ag05.proxy.aol.com (205.188.117.133)
17th October 2008 03:14:03 AM -
http://www.blogger.com/navbar.g?targetBlogID=3356222045673218643&blogName=Gone
22nd October 2008 09:36:51 AM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-ad08.proxy.aol.com (205.188.116.202)
17th October 2008 03:14:29 AM -
http://www.blogger.com/navbar.g?targetBlogID=3356222045673218643&blogName=Gone

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-ac10.proxy.aol.com (205.188.116.139)
17th October 2008 03:15:30 AM -
http://www.blogger.com/navbar.g?targetBlogID=3356222045673218643&blogName=Gone

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-aa11.proxy.aol.com (205.188.116.15)
17th October 2008 03:15:46 AM - www.blogger.com/profile/10443435392664598198

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-ah09.proxy.aol.com (205.188.117.201)
17th October 2008 03:15:54 AM - bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/

0 seconds, MSIE 6.0, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
cache-dtc-af02.proxy.aol.com (205.188.117.66)
17th October 2008 04:10:53 AM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/2007/09/got-mail.html

4th November 2008

22 mins 37 secs, Firefox 3.0.3, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 0
ACA36483.ipt.aol.com (172.163.100.131)
4th November 2008 01:44:47 AM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/

4th November 2008 01:54:08 AM - www.google.com/reader/view/
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/2007/12/whys-in-left-field-part-3.html

4th November 2008 01:56:20 AM -
www.blogger.com/navbar.g?targetBlogID=3356222045673218643&blogName=Gone With the Wind&publishMode=PUBLISH_MODE_BLOGSPOT&navbarType=BLUE&layoutType=LAYOUTS&homepageUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fgone-with-thewind.blogspot.com%2F&searchRoot=http%3A%2F%2Fgone-with-
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/search?q=Walling Road

4th November 2008 01:57:40 AM -
www.blogger.com/navbar.g?targetBlogID=3356222045673218643&blogName=Gone With the Wind&publishMode=PUBLISH_MODE_BLOGSPOT&navbarType=BLUE&layoutType=LAYOUTS&homepageUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fgone-with-thewind.blogspot.com%2F&searchRoot=http%3A%2F%2Fgone-with-

4th November 2008 01:58:12 AM -
www.blogger.com/navbar.g?targetBlogID=3356222045673218643&blogName=Gone With the Wind&publishMode=PUBLISH_MODE_BLOGSPOT&navbarType=BLUE&layoutType=LAYOUTS&homepageUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fgone-with-thewind.blogspot.com%2F&searchRoot=http%3A%2F%2Fgone-with-

4th November 2008 02:03:38 AM -
www.blogger.com/navbar.g?targetBlogID=3356222045673218643&blogName=Gone With the Wind&publishMode=PUBLISH_MODE_BLOGSPOT&navbarType=BLUE&layoutType=LAYOUTS&homepageUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fgone-with-thewind.blogspot.com%2F&searchRoot=http%3A%2F%2Fgone-with-

4th November 2008 02:04:12 AM - gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/search?q=I%27m sorry you hate me so much wish you would talk to me
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/2007/07/pandoras-box.html

4th November 2008 02:07:24 AM - gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/2007/07/pandoras-box.html
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/2007_08_01_archive.html

Unreal! A link for AOL nocturnal creatures:
http://ishouldbesleeping.com/

A Pound Mutt!

7th November 2008

1 hour 12 mins 34 secs, Firefox 3.0.3, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
AC838548.ipt.aol.com (172.131.133.72)
7th November 2008 11:06:20 AM - www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=haloscan%3A meet the family anne the-pound&btnG=Search
bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007/07/summer-tutoring.html

7th November 2008 12:12:03 PM - No referring link
bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/

7th November 2008 12:12:39 PM - bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/
bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html

7th November 2008 12:13:57 PM - bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html
bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007_05_01_archive.html

7th November 2008 12:14:55 PM -
bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007_05_01_archive.html
bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html

7th November 2008 12:15:43 PM -
bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html
bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007/06/attention-francesca-aka-baby-girl.html

7th November 2008 12:16:59 PM -
bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html
bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007/06/nashville-traffic-report.html

7th November 2008 12:18:54 PM -
bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html
bloggershallofshame.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html

0 seconds, Firefox 3.0.3, Windows XP, 1024x768, Return 1
AC838548.ipt.aol.com (172.131.133.72)
7th November 2008 12:24:47 PM - No referring link
gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/

C r e e p y . . .

isn't it?

Pa rum pum pum pum

TGIF!

Cease and Desist? Part 2

2008-10-02T07:27:00.011-04:00

The scope of trivial details Loretta Serrano and her cohorts compiled about selected targets is staggering and reminiscent of the J. Edgar Hoover era. The minutiae included a list of the subject’s usernames, email addresses, links to blogs or groups the person frequented, open memberships, and closed memberships complete with notations pertaining to her disassociation from certain forums. Personal particulars were noted about spouses, ex-spouses, kids, step-kids, grandparents, in-laws, neighbors, and pets. People who were completely unaware that a loose cannon from Rocky River, Ohio was circulating and publicizing their information. And very much like the former controversial FBI director, accuracy was not an essential element in Loretta’s dossiers, which contained memorandums such as... “I’m still trying to pin this down.”

It takes a special breed of individual to gather and publish information about every branch in your family tree regardless of age, relationship, and whether or not the unwitting victims have an online presence. It’s in the same class as calculating opportunists who would publicize a legal name they captured through a Paypal transaction.

Intimidation and coercion may give Loretta an adrenaline rush, but respectable people along with presidential candidates recognize there’s a species of sucking mole rats that engage in such tactics, which explains why civilized folks advocate the “back off” concept.

"Let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits, and people's children are especially off limits.” ~Barack Obama (9/1/08)

Time and again, Loretta Serrano blamed the wrong person for what others had done. When Chrishina Leann Hart spammed misfitting.com, Anita paid the price.

I was sent a link when she opened her comments and as promised I spammed the hell out of her blog, till she called a truce. Out of respect for all of you and Anita I said deal. Hell I had asked for a truce earlier and got shot down. I started not to take it, first thought was don't make deals with the devil. I will have you know my fingers were crossed when I posted deal, heh. I am a troll for petes sake! I had no idea Anita and crew had made this super duper posting area at the time too. I was only trying to do what I thought was best for my bogbusters, though it's not what I wanted to do. ok more in a sec.
Samantha (Chrishina Hart) 10.02.05 - 11:34 pm #
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“Above from Samantha.
If she starts her shit, we will just delete her IP and every other IP she uses for the time. I'll un-delete her IP after a couple hours. It may or may not affect other AOL users. You can always log out and log back in for a new AOL IP if yours is inadvertantly [sic] banned.

Meanwile, no comments about the bog on the main page. It DOES NOT EXIST. Everything over there is bullshit. They now have to invent things to keep the conversation going, since the facts are really too boring. Ignore them. I refuse to dignify that crap with any kind of response. I am SO done with that. “
Posted by loretta at October 3, 2005 11:15 AM

Where have I heard this before?… Shina/Samantha did what she thought was best for her “friends”! More importantly, Loretta affirmed that she comprehends the AOL Proxy system, yet she feigned ignorance at Usenet when she terrorized Peace for Shina’s chronic harassment.

“What an odd duck Samantha is to get so much pleasure from trolling.
Do we know her as another identity--is there a history on her? Sorry I don't recall.” ~Posted by karenancy at October 3, 2005 11:23 AM

What an odd comment coming from a person who got so much pleasure from her own involvement in the misfitting spamming of Anita’s blog the previous evening.

“Is anybody over here that can cope and paste? Lesa just IM'd me to come here and ask. She needs a little help.”
Posted by karenancy at October 2, 2005 07:51 PM

“Ponder, use the longest thing you can find.”
Posted by karenancy at October 2, 2005 07:58 PM

“Lesa says you don't need to be a member. She is looking for reinforcements, I told her Rose, Lee, Monica and Ponder were enroute.”
Posted by karenancy at October 2, 2005 08:21 PM

“Lesa doesn't care where we converse as long as we bomb them back to The Stone Age.” ~Posted by karenancy at October 2, 2005 09:21 PM

“Lesa is still locked and loaded. Her day is just beginning.”
Posted by karenancy at October 2, 2005 10:09 PM

“I feel childish. Childlike?”
Posted by Veronica Prior at October 2, 2005 10:10 PM

“We'll go with childlike Vero. Young at heart.”
Posted by karenancy at October 2, 2005 10:11 PM

Another oddity is a misfit with a conscience.

“Don't forget to post on the main page. I think Joe feels abandoned. I'm all for ignore, ignore, ignore. Even though I helped spam the bog yesterday, doesn't mean I feel good about it. I really don't like conflict and really don't like little bog twits. The high road is my favorite traveling path to happiness and peace”.
Posted by Monica October 3, 2005 11:32 AM

“And from Spamantha - she's not done yet.”

To finish what I was saying. I think after their disrespect of our bog last night and all freaking day today. They are due a trolling or 100. I'm sick to death of the threats, the bullshit, the lies and did I say threats? She crossed the line today with me, for the last time. Now that I know Anita has a monkey pooper scooper, her ass is mine! I'm sorry if you don't agree with me, but it's how I feel.

Hey LowLife Bitch, I don't make deals with devils and you shouldn't make deals with Trolls! ~Samantha 10.02.05 - 11:42 pm #
Posted by Rose at October 3, 2005 11:50 AM

Now, there’s a familiar ditty. A tune the impoverished twit would yodel for over two years as she set about the difficult but necessary work of drawing more attention to herself.

In the meantime, Loretta explained to the overly sensitive what motivated her to write a story about a woman whose sister was brutally murdered, which she characterized as exaggerated comedy. Mind you, the purported Holly and Molly “joke” was penned subsequent to a misfitting ‘Cease and Desist’ letter campaign that was brought to the attention of Randall Lane, the editor-in-chief of a magazine KCL was affiliated with.

“For those whose eyebrows rose for the Holly and Molly story, it was a joke. I didn't kill off her sister. It was designed to spoof Katie and her sister was a secondary character. It's been 17 years, folks. Katie has canonized her sister in the interim. I don't think in 17 years any of us will still be carrying a torch for Laci Peterson (nor will her sister, Amy.) Katie's crusade has never really been about her sister for a LONG time. I was hoping this story would demonstrate that FARCE. The ending? You'll like it!”
Posted by loretta at October 3, 2005 11:50 AM

On October 9, 2005, Loretta Serrano offered rewards for information about about JA ($500) and Anita($200) at Usenet. She pledged to underwrite $1000 for information about Samantha/Shina by proxy two months later.

By the end of October 2005, Loretta erroneously announced that Peace was responsible for harassing her at Usenet citing AOL IPs as evidence. That’s a remarkable feat considering AOL has 10 million subscribers, none of which can be uniquely identified as their IP address is shared with hundreds if not thousands of other AOL users.

Usenet: Retzq – 10/30/05 @ 3:28 pm

“Please note:
152.163.100.130 - Deanna's new IP for today (See above IP address in "GloryDays' " post of 3:16 pm. (EDT)

64.12.116.130 - Troll on Usent [sic] IP today (the one posting as Retz3 and now 2) - has been posting as "bechinb..." on this thread above as well. (Among other trolling names and posts.) It's another AOL IP.

205.188.117.14 "Glory Days" IP earlier today from a post she made at 1:11 AM this morning. that 205.188.117.14 IP matches every single Dr. N post, Jaq&Eve post, Ldillion post, etc. from the past few days - the one putting up my kids pictures, etc, the fake personal ad, lists of my names, family names, etc. Putting two and two together we can safely conclude that Deanna/Peace/Glory Days is trolling here regularly and has a big obsession with me. There is a second troll - But Deanna? Now she comes in with a new IP? Too late, Deanna. Read the IP addresses on all your previous posts and WEAP [sic]. “

For your convenience, an AOL primer can be found HERE. Furthermore, there were 3,409 comments logged at Usenet in October 2005. Over three hundred of the comments were posted on 10/30/05.

From: RetzQ2 <lmds_at_visn.net>
Date: 30 Oct 2005 06:24:44 –0800

205.188.117.14

Forking MOWron. It's the same IP - every single one of this stupid woman's trolling posts and fake names is the EXACT SAME IP! No other person here is using that IP. She's so stupid, she is a danger to herself and others.

There’s one small problem with the cyber detective’s epiphany… she was wrong. DEAD WRONG! Her indictment was as faulty as her conclusions about John Mason, Mark Lunsford, Daniel Horowitz and so many others.

Re: $500 Reward for locating Cyber Stalker GIorydays (13-Oct-05 20:41)
Re: $500 Reward for locating Cyber Stalker anony.authorunknown_at_gmail.com (13-Oct-05 20:41)

Re: $500 Reward for locating Cyber Stalker GIorydays (13-Oct-05 21:12)
Re: $500 Reward for locating Cyber Stalker anony.authorunknown_at_gmail.com (13-Oct-05 21:12)

Re: $500 Reward for locating Cyber Stalker GIorydays (14-Oct-05 22:01)
Re: $500 Reward for locating Cyber Stalker anony.authorunknown_at_gmail.com (14-Oct-05 22:01)

Chrishina Leann Hart posted at the very same time Glorydays/Peace did. And since anony.authorunknown/Shina Hart was the person responsible for publishing Loretta’s information at Usenet, Peace couldn’t possibly have done it and should have been thoroughly vindicated. Yet, in spite of the exculpatory evidence staring her in the face, Loretta Serrano continued to taunt Peace for months.

“Samantha doesn't exist, you guys. She's Deanna. I've already proven that to you umpteen times.” ~Posted by: loretta at November 23, 2005 08:29 PM

Who’s the “forking MOWron”?

Loretta claims that someone with the nic "Watch Your Step" tried to post comments that could be perceived at kidnapping threats on her blog. Since she has the ability to censor every comment, she was able to stop them before they appeared. She did, however, send them via email to about 40 people.

Unfortunately, in her attempt to warn this "Watch Your Step" entity that she was saving their posts for law enforcement, she forget to change the nic in the "Name" field from the one she'd used to compose the threatening comments, that were not posted but sent to others as "proof," back to her own name.

Dear "Watch your Step."

Or, should we say, "Samantha?" Deanna?

Your threatening posts are being saved for law enforcement. Thanks for escalating. We knew it was only a matter of time.

Posted by: Watch Your Step at November 21, 2005 01:34 AM

For anyone who may not have "gotten it" yet:

2. “This same person posted my daughter's school address on my blog. The comment was not approved (it was from "Watch Your Step" - as was the DL post that I didn't approve for publicaction) and I sent both of those attempted comments via email to about 40 people. There are enough witnesses to this attempted threat than you have posters combined. -Posted by: loretta at November 25, 2005 11:06 AM “

Yes, it's quite astonishing how much she has escalated in the past few days, Deege. Last night she tried to post some other information that was very threatening and can only be interpreted as a kidnapping threat.

The IP address from "Watch your step" matches the IP address of the "Candle Lover" on Usenet posting illegally obtained information.

Everyone - and I mean everyone - needs to do something about this. Whatever you can do - research, help me report the abuse to Google (since she is using Google to access it and a g-mail address) - email me any contact information.

I think I'll start with the sheriff's departments from both counties involved. If anyone has any experience with this kind of harassment, please e-mail me.

Up to this point, Samantha/Peace/Deanna was just posting pictures of my kids she snagged from my blog and stupid threats. Now, she's gone over the line.

It's time to put a stop to this once and for all. If any of you are friends with any of the people at Lora's site, maybe it's time to get in touch with them and appeal to their common sense.

If this stalker is tracked back to Lora's, all hell will break loose.

Posted by: loretta at November 21, 2005 09:38 AM

Victoria (V) 05.29.06 - 11:38 am

These are a few of so many reasons why Retzie, the "spirited imp trapped in hausfrau life", earned the FOTY award!

Isn't it ironic, that a woman who spent the last five years feeding off and publishing people's history now requests the removal of her online scarlet past?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And it seems to me you lived your life
Like a candle in the wind
Never knowing who to cling to
When the rain set in
And I would have liked to pardon you
But frankly I’m amazed
Your candle may burn out before
Your legend ever fades

Cease and Desist? Part 1

2008-09-23T12:52:00.001-04:00

The revelation concerning a Cease & Desist letter authored by Loretta Serrano, owner of http://www.misfitting.com/, took me by surprise because I wasn't notified. After viewing a copy of the document Cathy received, I noticed Loretta made a grave error in attempting to transmit the communication to me. The self-proclaimed sleuth sent it to an email account that's been closed for nearly four years and in doing so... shot herself in the foot!

I have NEVER posted my full legal name in cyberspace on any forum in all the years I’ve had access to the Internet. I’ve never posted my spouse’s name either. Needless to say, when Loretta Serrano aka Loretta Dillon published my personal information at bullybuster burlesque I was perplexed as to how she knew my last name. Puzzle solved!

When Laci Peterson went missing in 2002, I had an ISP with a monthly rate that allowed a limited number of hours. After receiving a hefty bill for exceeding my allotted time I activated a new account with a different service provider that offered unlimited usage. Since I subscribed to various Yahoo groups along with Modbee updates in the original account, I chose to phase it out rather than close it immediately. It became a back-up account where my Peterson case information was temporarily stored until I had time to sort through the documentation. It was also tied in with my Paypal account.

After four months of posting at misfitting.com, I made a contribution through Loretta's Paypal icon. Obviously the email address to my old account accompanied the donation. When the funds were transferred I was identified as the account holder, which is confirmed in Loretta’s note of thanks. Naturally, the account was in my legal name.

Exhibit A:

Subject: Receipt for your Payment to retzq@misfitting.com
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 07:08:04 –0700
From: service at paypal.com
To: xxxxxx at attglobal.net

This email confirms that you have paid retzq@misfitting.com $xx.xx using
PayPal. This credit card transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL *RETZQ".

Exhibit B:

Subject: Thank you!
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:25:27 –0400
From: "loretta s." <lmds@visn.net>
To: xxxxxx at attglobal.net

Thanks, Charlene,

You are very generous to tip your hostess! It's not necessary, but it is appreciated! Love having you around, by the way. You inspire me daily!

Kind regards,
Loretta

(Note: I posted as Mrs V at misfitting!)

The "PAYPAL *RETZQ". transaction listed the account holder’s name as Loretta Smith NOT Loretta Serrano. I don’t know what the repercussions are for opening an account under a bogus name with a company that handles cash transactions. Perhaps the impending Lori Drew trial will spell it all out for us.

The fact is, Loretta’s last name was Smith when she attacked Miss Loveliness in 1998. The assault took place six months after Loretta was awarded a lump sum payment of $9,500.00 for child support in the case of Smith vs Smith , which was ordered to be paid in full by 7/3/98. Yet, within six months, Loretta filed an affidavit of indigency that was approved on 1/13/99 qualifying her for a public defender at the taxpayer's expense. She listed assets of $20.00 cash on hand, $100.00 in checking, and $2500.00 in savings. Missing from the financial disclosure was the recent $9500.00 child support payment, although she added a curious notation alleging, “We are saving for college”.

But I digress.

Any respectable person would be horrified that Loretta Serrano harvested a legal name through a secured electronic cash transfer that she profited from, and then publicized the name while inciting others to cause mental stress. It’s precisely what the bastard did and the evidence is irrefutable. Furthermore, it puts her in the hot seat according to Ohio Stalking Laws , and it should give pause to anyone who entertains the notion of donating to her blog.

It also contradicts Loretta’s version of how personal information was compiled for publication at the fifteen spite blogs she and her partner Anne Curi created.

“The information that was published was obtained in entirely overt (rather than covert) ways:
1. Public records online
2. Personal history
3. Blog posts/comments from existing web sites/blogs on which various people posted their information.
4. Posts and IP tracking from various blogs, namely all the blogs I had as well as others' blogs on which people posted.
5. Emails

None of the personal information was obtained in any underhanded way. All of it was easily obtained and all it took was a little sleuthing. After all, the original premise of everyone's interest in Misfitting was the crime story element. We were little cyber sleuthers, dontcha know.

Personally, I did very little to sleuth. I was too busy or lazy to do it and I always had plenty of volunteers who had lots of time on their hands and were more than happy to do it.

Yes, despite my maligned reputation, I really did not have much time or desire to chase people around the Net. Most of that chasing was done by others (many others) and the info was handed to me on a silver platter.”
loretta 06.01.07 - 6:09 pm

Loretta Serrano spent years destroying her own reputation on every major forum in Cyberspace. It didn’t matter whether you were nice to her or found fault with her; Loretta treated everyone that crossed her path with equal disdain. Jbean from Websleuths can attest to that reality.

The “silver platter” is actually quite tarnished.

A photo of my residence was unlawfully swiped from a reevaluation website and subsequently published on a blog Loretta and company created under my legal name. That act violated the company’s ‘Terms and Conditions of Use’ as well as Copyright Laws and is prosecutable under the governing law and jurisdiction of the state of Rhode Island!

Hacking into a yahoo account and stealing emails is indeed a "covert” operation. It's also against the law! The account belonged to Loretta’s sister.

And then there's the chat transcript between Chrishina Leann Hart and another person that was published on one of the spite blogs. Was it a donation?

A classic example of how Loretta Serrano recruited her band of misfits to do her bidding dates back to December 2005 as she posted under yet another alias!

Exhibit C:

“I'd like to run something by the academy before I do anything. The first time I posted a reward on Aneedaturnbacktime and JA on my blog, D-Paula about fainted.

I know that she would not feel that way, now.

However, I don't think the mutts trust me, and it would be a lot more effective coming from one of you or a group of you.

If one or more of you would sponsor a bounty on Samantha, I would underwrite it. I think it is very possible that with a little financial incentive, someone will spill on her.

Think about it. I will go as high as $1000.

Posted by: E.F. Hutton (Loretta Serrano) December 19, 2005 at 12:10 PM

Fascinating! The former indigent offered $1000 for information about a self-professed Internet troll with the brain functionality of an artichoke! Of course this bounty came on the heels of Loretta blaming Peace for things Chrishina/Samantha had done at Usenet. Loretta not only posted personal details about Peace, but also violated the privacy of her family members by publicizing names and providing links to their websites.

Loretta traumatized Peace and threatened to call her employer. The entire exchange is still floating around cyberspace THREE years after the fact! And when all was said and done, Peace felt worse for the children.

“Of all of us, Loretta probably hates me the most. She has been insulting me, lying about me, and accusing me of things I didn't do, longer than anyone else. (Not counting those in her RL).

The most appalling (to me), hateful, and hurtful things that have been done by Loretta, to any of us, is what she did to Anita... when she posted Anita's children's names, location and other info and what she did to Katie... well, we ALL know what she did to Katie.”
Peace 11.11.06 - 8:56 pm

"The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior! What you say and do defines who you are, and who you are…you are forever."

"For the record, I posted Lora's kids' names and BDates and her new address on Usenet and my blog to prove a point. I realized that it was going to stay in some venue permanently, as did all the posts that (Names edited) and all the mutts who used my daughter's name and my name to slander me at Usenet. I realized that it was not an appropriate venue for that, but I did it anyway.

Did I feel bad about it? Yes, actually. You can ask the people in the kitchen what I said. I said, I know it was wrong, but I did it anyway. Does that make me a sociopath? Have at it. I am no more pathological than you all, and in fact have not done a fraction of the things of which you accuse me."
Loretta Serrano, June 25, 2006 - 7:22 PM

The disclosure set a standard for irrational, immoral and self-destructive behavior that would take Britney Spears five months to surpass.

To be continued.

Somebody Needs a Hobby!

2008-09-17T21:13:00.007-04:00

Because in Center Field - Part 1

2008-08-15T22:12:00.007-04:00

As I stated in Part 1, of "Why's in Left Field", Chase Home Finance filed a “Motion for Relief from the Automatic Stay” requesting that the court allow foreclosure proceedings against Joint Debtors, Kenneth Michael and Chrishina Leann Hart.

On 5/23/07, Judge Paine issued a Notice of Preliminary Hearing and Prehearing Order outlining the procedure to be followed at a court hearing set for 6/11/07.

The Joint Debtors responded to the motion on 5/27/07 alleging they failed to make timely payments because the mister was out of work for awhile, but had since become employed again. The Debtors paid the back payments claiming they could stay current.

Counsel to the Standing Trustee of Chapter 13 responded on 6/1/07, stating that the debtors were in noncompliance with the Plan since they were not making payments as agreed. Therefore, the Trustee did not oppose the Motion for Relief from Stay filed by Chase Home Finance.

Recap:

5/19/07 – Francesca’s understudy, Shannon, staged a preposterous ruse with specious allegations that I killed The Pound as she encouraged anyone interested in taking the reins to contact Goombahs Inc@AOL.com.
(Hint: The apple didn’t fall far from the tree.)

5/19/07 – Chrishina Leann Hart published a windy fictional tirade against me raising concerns among the mutts.

5/20/07 – In a melodramatic appearance Francesca assured everyone the show would go on.

5/20/07 – Chrishina published what appeared to be yet another exit speech adding to her perpetual list of farewells.

5/21/07 - Chase Home Finance filed a “Motion for Relief from the Automatic Stay”.

5/23/07 - Judge Paine issued a NOTICE OF PRELIMINARY HEARING AND PREHEARING ORDER.

5/24/07 – Ship Wreck wrote: “Just returned to read a disturbing post from "Shannon": EXTRACT: Thank you Lola, BG sends you all the best

“From my perspective, Lola had nothing to do with any thoughts BG may have about closing The Pound. BG, if I am wrong, I'm sure you will let me know.”

(Note: This query went unanswered along with ShipWreck’s previous emails and text messages to Francesca.)

5/27/07 – The Joint Debtors responded to the Motion for Relief.

5/31/07 – The diva of dipsticks returned from a week in Hawaii and picked up precisely where she had left off:

“I'm back! I had a great time in Hawaii. My balcony overlooked Waikiki Beach. The waves, the surfers, the weather---like a dream. We rented a Mustang convertible and drove all over the place. I feel like a new woman. Now, where's Samantha?”
Countess Blockquotessa 05.31.07 - 12:09 pm

“And where is Samantha? Samantha, Samantha, wherever you are, I miss you. I haven't a clue who Lola is, but I hope she didn't scare you away. I love you Samantha and I miss you. And I miss Patsy, too. Is there any chance Patsy is Lola? God, I hope not. I love Patsy, too, and I miss Patsy. Patsy, where are you?”
Contessa Blockquotessa 05.31.07 - 9:27 pm

“Bartender, tell me. Is there a war going on between Lola and Samantha? If there is, is there any way we can do anything to fix it?”
Contessa Blockquotessa 05.31.07 - 9:34 pm

“As for Samantha and Lola, please quit dukiŮg it out behind the scenes. Come join me for a drink. Let's work this out.”
Contessa Blockquotessa 05.31.07 - 10:35 pm

To which Chrishina Leann Hart responded:

“Hi! How sweet of you to miss me ((hugs))! I miss y'all too and still pop in daily but no time Ŵo comment. Life hasĠme on the move I tell ya. But I had to make time tonight because I read some comments earlier that I felt needed first hand answers and because my internet connection will be off just any day now I'm sure. We asked for it to be disconnected over a week ago so yeah any day now I'll be without a connection. Whoopee!

No Lola isn't Patsy, not even close, Patsy has class. I am not fighting with Lola or anyone on the scene, behind the scene or at the "bar"...promise. First of all Lola knows better than to start a war with me or at least she better. She can run her mouth all she wants about me behind my back as she does but the first time she brings it to me well it won't be pretty. CLEAR THREAT of I won't take your shit dere OR PROMISE LOLA you pick. But until then she doesn't concern me in the least, no really not in the least. Sticks Stones Words Dumbasses ya know.

But I am taking a break from the freaks of web that have made it their business to fuck with me. Even though I couldn't give two shits about them :roll eyes: I know me well enough to know that I will go full fledge crazy bitch if I don't just shut down the net entirely and get away from them. I've tried avoiding them haha jokes on me since they're Obsessive Mentally Ill Professional Stalkers (or is that sickos?). Fucktards sums them up quite nicely I think. Yup Fucktards.

I've finally had my fill of the liars, control freaks, stalkers, fucktards and in general bored bitches with no (love) life to the point that the next bitch who 'gets in my face' would be quite surprised how fast I'd get in their face fo' real. Yeah it's that bad and I'm that SICK OF THEM and I have the means to travel and just enough "fuck it" to do it. No no not that! Just a knock knock hey Fucktard ya wanna say that shit to my face bitchslap kinda thing. So um yeah I need a break before I have record! And I'm only half kidding, that's the fucked up part about the whole thing since I'm normally a quite peaceful person in real life even to those who cause me stress. HAHA anyone who read my blog knows that BS LOL.

I do miss you all very much! Email me for my phone number so we can keep in touch! Hartsbabiesinc at aol dot com. We put in our pool, started our furbaby haven and our closest real life friends moved into our neighborhood! Oh and our home business finally took off faster than a babydaddy! No shit. We're happier than pigs in slop and busy busy with life. So please don't think I'm fighting or unhappy because I swear to you I'm not. For the first time in years I'm honest to God happy. I hope the rest of you are doing great and please know I'll never forget the real friends I made here...never couldn't if I tried. ((Hearts You Dearly))”
Samantha aka Chrishina 06.01.07 - 4:37 šm

Whose absence would not make the heart grow fonder?

“I'm so sorry you've had to deal with all that shit, Samantha. I'm going to miss you, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Hope your business is a smashing success. And maybe sometimes, if you're at a friend's or the library, or some place with Internet connection you can stop by and say hi y'all. Stay happy.”
Contessa Blockquotessa 06.01.07 - 12:52 pm

When Contessa finds OZ, let's hope the wizard has an extra brain to hand out.

1. There is no "home business".
2. Lola did not run her mouth off about Chrishina behind her back.
3. Anita and company did not create the bash blog.
4. Barbara and Monica claim the misfits love Chrishina, so who is stalking her?
5. How many have waited a week for their Internet service to be disconnected?

6/1/07 - Because the Joint Debtors were in noncompliance with the Bankruptcy Plan, the Standing Trustee of Chapter 13 did not oppose the Motion for Relief from Stay filed by Chase Home Finance.

"The provisions of a confirmed plan are binding on the debtor and each creditor.
11 U.S.C. § 1327. Once the court confirms the plan, it is the responsibility of the debtor to make the plan succeed. The debtor must make regular payments to the trustee, which will require adjustment to living on a fixed budget for a prolonged period. Alternatively, the debtor’s employer can withhold the amount of the payment from the debtor’s paycheck and transmit it to the chapter 13 trustee. Furthermore, while confirmation of the plan entitles the debtor to retain property as long as payments are made, the debtor may not incur any significant new credit obligations without consulting the trustee, as such credit obligations may have an impact upon the execution of the plan. 11 U.S.C. §§ 1305(c), 1322(a)(1) & 1327."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Up to a point a man's life is shaped by environment, heredity, and movements and changes in the world about him. Then there comes a time when it lies within his grasp to shape the clay of his life into the sort of thing he wishes to be. Only the weak blame parents, their race, their times, lack of good fortune, or the quirks of fate. Everyone has it within his power to say...

"This I am today; that I will be tomorrow."

~Louis L'Amour

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

One more thing...

A google search of my legal name produces results from Haloscan comments for ‘babygirlsbrutus’. I would be remiss if I didn’t reciprocate.

Francesca Carmen Franzese, owner of The-Pound Blogspot, can either remove all references to my name or grab a long straw and suck it up as I have.

Should Fran Fran choose wisely, I would be happy to remove her name from this site.

I notice the mutt from upenn.edu likes to google Francesca and is a frequent visitor to this blog during office hours. Perhaps she will relay the message.

~~~

Why's In Left Field - Part 5

2008-01-27T22:42:00.000-05:00

If you buy into the notion the “shitload of fun” did a 180 to absolve her friends of Loretta’s wrongful accusations you are an easy sell. The undeniable truth is that only one person benefited from the notorious covenant with Loretta Serrano… namely, Chrishina Leann Hart!

Accumulating more mileage than the 200 leading presidential contenders, Chrishina campaigned vigorously across the Blogosphere clarifying her 5/25/06 pledge of: “No more emails, posts, two faced people, strangers on the internet, no favors, no phone calls, no contact from anyone involved regardless of who it is”

The “stupid troll” headed straight for Anne Curi’s publishing empire where she registered a complaint at KCL’s active Tribute blog as her own spite blog was suspended. Her criticism was duly noted in a commentary dated 6/1/06 @ 20:53:48 by the Brazilian editor-in-chief, which essentially outlined the merits of bipartisan cooperation.

http://tinyurl.com/yrvvoy

Some perks arrived through Chrishina’s inbox with amazing speed in the form of purloined communiqués that had been confiscated by Loretta when she hacked into her sister’s email account on 5/27/06.

From: "Loretta S." lorettas2@cox.net
To: "Shina" shinahart@charter.net
Subject: Peace/Deanna's Email to the Mutts about you
Date:Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:58:08 -0400

From: "Loretta S." lmds@visn.net
To: "Shina" shinahart@charter.net
Subject: More Lovely Tidbits
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 09:46:41 -0400

From: "Loretta S." lmds@visn.net
To: "Shina" shinahart@charter.net
Subject: Andrea's Blather
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 09:48:19 –0400

Andrea’s “blather” consisted of shock and dismay concerning recent events, yet she felt bad for Shina. She mentioned that someone in the group hoped Mike was aware of what was going on and would be supportive and watchful. JA was angered that Chrishina blamed Cathy for fueling the flames at LH2, a venue where its been said Ms L rarely participated. Katie speculated that Shina was driven by some misguided rationale and asked for everyone’s patience in sorting through the problem. Anita spoke of compassion and understanding along with expressing fear that Shina may do something to harm herself.

Peace was more reflective in her observations as she tried to make sense of what happened. Peace wrote that “Sam” had not responded to the last email she sent her. She tried calling Shina from work but the number was no longer in service. Peace explained how she feared for her sons, herself, and her job when Loretta blamed her for things Shina had posted at Usenet. Peace recalled when she began doubting the veracity of Shina’s claims and couldn’t distinguish fact from fiction due to so many discrepancies. In short, Peace was as baffled as everyone else.

Four beleaguered friends trying to comprehend the logic behind what happened. Friends, Chrishina had isolated herself from. Friends she would publicly castigate five months down the road. Friends she eventually blamed for the creation of another Tribute Blog that clearly has her own butt prints all over it.

Had Chrishina kept her pledge and rode off into the sunset, the theory that she wanted to be left out of it forever may have been believable. As it turned out, that wasn’t the case. Within one month the Tennessee traitor furtively executed yet another U-turn by actively participating at The Truth Tree, a blog operated by the individual she blamed most for keeping the flame war going at LH2.

She authored comments under various nics: Admin, anonymous, Diamond,
#1 Bitch, Designer Elf, H20Lover, Night Watch Elf, Keebler Elf Too, Happy, SickandTired, Calling CPS, and Corky.

“Testing 123”
Admin (Shina) 07.04.06 - 12:11 am
24.183.203.150

“Ick! Do we have to put up with rabid monkeys over here as well? I can understand at LH but here? Just asking.”
Diamond (Shina) 07.09.06 - 11:04 pm
24.183.203.150

Apparently Chrishina’s agreement with Loretta Serrano was non-binding. Curiously Shina’s spite blog remained closed as the rest were periodically updated.

I remember when KCL confronted Chrishina at The Truth Tree and how shocking it was to learn Shina had been participating anonymously after announcing her retirement from the blogosphere. The incident triggered a heated discussion most of which is no longer available at the site. Posters considered it an issue that should have been resolved through email rather than Miss Loveliness’ blog. The problem with that option is Chrishina had closed her email account in May without leaving a forwarding address.

Miss Loveliness diffused the situation with the following:

“Though I've not spoken to Samantha personally, and did experience some minor discomfort over her brief association with the Lowest, I can understand how she was duped by Loretta. Even I, who at varying times throughout the last decade of continuous BS, have found myself wanting to reach out to her and feeling somewhat sorry for her. I, who know this woman's MO very, very well. Loretta’s days of squeezing any sympathy from me are now, good and over. All I'm saying is, Loretta has a grand talent for sucking the most seasoned of adversaries into her world. I feel Samantha is making amends to me, and I have forgiveness in my heart, given knowledge of the circumstances. Though not the popular opinion, I'm leaving the door open for Samantha to read or post, and anyone who is willing to be truthful and respectful of others here.” Miss Loveliness 07.22.06 - 4:45 pm

KCL was amenable.

“Thanks for that clarification Miss L. This is your House and I respect your rules/requests/etc! By now I know how to step over all kinds of things or step around or in some cases step ON but I will respect your requests.”
katiec**lady 07.22.06 - 5:27 pm

Baby Girl chimed in…

“As for Sam...I'm not gonna get into that. We had our say. It's done.
Now what are the rest of you sluts up to?”
Baby Girl 07.23.06 - 8:48 pm

Chrishina was boorish.

“This is just sad. A few of you are allowing your black heart of hate ruin Miss L's blog and chance to tell her story. Show some respect girls and stay on topic! This blog is not about Samantha, Katie, or Neps Mom got it? It's about Cathy defending herself against the lies of Loretta Serrano. Respect that or leave!”
H20Lover (Shina) 07.23.06 - 10:25 pm
24.183.203.150

That’s a complete turnaround from: “Sweet Sister you know who that is too. I believe she is feeding people a lot of lies and is keeping this flame war going. I lay most of the blame on her for this blog (LH2) still being active at all. ~5/27/06”

By 8/14/06, Chrishina was welcomed at The Pound.

“Thanks for the welcome.”
Sooner (Shina) 08.14.06 - 12:45 am
24.183.203.150

Where she kept a low profile as the resident disc jockey.

DJ Sooner (Shina) 08.14.06 - 5:57 pm
24.183.203.150

In October 2006, Chrishina circulated the following announcement:

Original message from Shina - shinahart@charter.net

“I'm going to try blogging again. Anybody who wants to read it
here's the web address http://mrsfalsepositive.blogspot.com/

If that bitch Loretta and her gang show up I'm going to drive to OH and kill her period.

BG I updated the fur entry. Thank you girl for all you've done. I like blogging and wish more of you had blogs hint hint. Its a great way to keep up with each other's lives. Love that and you!. If you want me to help you set up a blog email me. I'm not the best or worst out there but I'm free.

Hugs,
Shina"

It was around the time Shina told us she had found Mgt, who turned out to be Mtnwmn. We all know the outcome of that fiasco. Nobody asked Shina to go looking for either Mgt or Mtnwmn, in fact everyone was perplexed that she had. And when Mntwmn pursued the matter, Chrishina, whose name can be rearranged to spell LIAR Cant Hash Her Inn… LIED!

Response From:: Shina Hart aka http://shina-hart.blogspot.com/
---------------fuckoffanddieloretta---------------
11/03/06 - Mtnwmn / Darragh

“Most of those people were clearly never my "friend", others still are. Is that what gives Loretta and Vero the right to harass target and threaten me? Even though I'm not welcome to post at any of the blogs for at least six months now. I have turned my back on this situation many times only to be dragged back kicking and screaming by your pal Loretta. Why that bitch won't leave me alone I'll never know. Maybe you know?

Why do you assume it's me that is posting your picture? Even if I tell you it's not you're going to believe it is because Loretta and Vero say so right? Loretta and Vero love to attach my name and image to shit that has never been done or posted by me. So yes Mtnwmn I know exactly how it feels and is why I posted what I did on your blog as Chin Up.

My actions are mine I "owned" them (and yes some where very hard to own), apologized to both sides and ceased any involvement. That was until Loretta continued to target me. I'm not bothering Loretta on the net at any blog. I had to create this blog to address her and Vero's lies on the blog they created to harass and threaten me. If they would stop their bullshit I wouldn't have anything to bitch about here.

I don’t know you lady and don't have any problem with you except your implying its me thats harassing you. If reading at your blog is harassing you well then maybe I am guilty gah!”

What a piece of work! The “stupid troll” not only lied, but also assumed the role of victim! Posting comments at Darragh’s blog as “chin up” was ludicrous. She certainly didn’t curtail her participation at the blogs, in fact, I’ve never seen anyone jump from the frying pan into the fire with as much enthusiasm as Chrishina Leann Hart all the while her Tribute blog was in hibernation. The following sample of Chrishina’s handiwork is a reliable indication the shyster had way too much time on her hands:

"Breaking News
This just in...... It appears the fucktard and her monktards had glamour shots taken while at Lisa's for her birthday party. Not that big of a deal? What if I told you we got our hands on copies of those hidden glamour shots? ::please put on your protective eye gear now::

The Watson Elf, Lie-sa
http://thumbsnap.com/v/u6XRypzK.jpg
CountryGirl, Hooterville Ho
http://thumbsnap.com/v/fzubAga9.jpg
Ronni, Vero
http://thumbsnap.com/v/qHXkzo8h.jpg
Loretta Serrano, Loretta Dillon, Misfit, Fucktard, too many nicks to list
http://thumbsnap.com/v/k8DafTPQ.jpg

::Blink::
Back to you Murphy."
Corky (Shina) 08.30.06 - 4:29 pm
24.183.203.150

I remember the first chat session I participated in with Chrishina in attendance. She said she had learned how to compile a slide show and provided a link to demonstrate her newly acquired skill. The album contained images that morphed into the distorted photos above. If Shina was waiting for compliments she must have been disappointed. No one in the session expressed approval.

The turncoat most assuredly didn’t express regret to KCL when she shed her “DJ Sooner” disguise AFTER the spite blogs were closed all the while refusing to accept apologies offered.

http://tinyurl.com/2w448y

She never addressed Andrea or Anita directly, instead she grumbled about the context of the emails Loretta forwarded to her SIX months prior:

“I received several emails from Loretta that were written by some of you about me. How did she get those emails? Ask her sister. I didn't have access to Mimi's email account and sure as hell never provided the passwords to Loretta. If you want to blame me for Loretta being rotten and hacking her sister's email account well that's fine too. My point for bringing that up is this....I read what some of my dearest and closet "friends" said about me behind my back. Discussing whether or not to call my husband and tell on me? My husband and I are the best of friends, he knows who I am online and offline.”
Samantha (Shina) 11.14.06 - 8:08 pm

That’s a distortion that doesn’t even resemble what was actually written in those emails. The Tennessee twit must have expected her "friends" to organize a parade in her honor!

“Where was Katie and Anita when my bash blog went back up because of their blogs about Loretta?”
Samantha (Shina) 11.15.06 - 12:00 am

Both Katie’s and Anita’s Tribute blogs remained active during the six months Chrishina’s was mothballed. What made Shina think either of the two were under any obligation to soothe her fragile psyche after what she had done? The reality is that Chrishina, herself, commanded the grand reopening of her Tribute blog!

FLASHBACK!

I have moved my url and changed my name in hopes to shake a few ...August 31,2006 17:41 GMTI have moved my url and changed my name in hopes to shake a few stalkers (Loretta Serrano), but they have proven they love me too much to leave me alone, poor fucktards. Thus making me a crazy fucktard stalker magnet~pah such is life ...michaelandshina.blogspot.com/2006/08/i-have-moved-my-url-and-changed-my.html

Loretta Serrano Dillon is an EVIL BITCH!
October 14,2006 04:56 GMT -I imagine my hate blog that Loretta Serrano Dillon runs at www.shina-hart.blogspot.com will be back up and in business because you will see this as my "asking for it". But in truth I had left you alone and you as of today continue to ...shina-hart.blogspot.com/2006/10

Shina Hart Fights Back - Since Loretta Serrano Dillon claims she is not the owner of these hate blogs created to harass, bully and stalk, lets see how long it takes for the Shina Hart hate blog to come back to life! Watch with me Loretta Serrano Dillon's Hate Blog Created to Stalk and Libel Shina Hart if you like! - by beingshina in Shina Hart Fights Back

Last, but not least, Chrishina ambushed Peace, the person who initially took all the hits from Loretta because of what the bag of rat sputum, the person whose name can be rearranged to spell LIAR Chant Inner Hash, had written at Usenet.

Peace responded:

“I haven't been here in several days. I was informed of Sam's post to me. I went looking for it, not expecting at all what she wrote, and found it quite disturbing. I wasn't going to respond, but have since decided to.”

“This is to Peace and Peace only.”
Why didn't you send this to me in email?

(That’s a great question considering the kibitzer had a different set of standards for herself.)

(“If anybody has a problem with me period my email is still shinahart at charter dot net. Out of respect for the pound crew take it to my email please and thanks.”
Sam 12.04.06 - 11:39 pm)

“You've hurt me deeper than Loretta or Katie ever could. You pretended to be my friend to suit your own agenda. We spent hours on the phone, emails and chats. I trusted you with things I've never told another living soul. You claimed you were closer to me than anybody else at the blogs.”

I never pretended to be your friend, I WAS your friend. It had nothing to do with my own agenda. When ever I added my say to any of the conversations in emails about you, it was that I didn't believe you did it what you did on your own.; I always said I believed you were set up and that there were others helping you and that I really was lost (from not following closely) at why so many were blaming just you. I also said that I didn't think Loretta hi-jacked the emails from anything you gave her, but that I felt she and her sister had come to a truce prior and that emails were gathered from that truce. At the time, I'm sure I was closer to you than anyone else...... at the time.

“At the same time you were the one who outed me to Loretta with your angelmommy post.”

No. Sam, you are so wrong about this. And you know it. Others had posted about your blog and your baby before I did. I did not out you. When I posted anything in regard to that, I did not use your name nor did I use mine. I was on your side, defending you completely. I had seen the blog and I knew others that had also. I said it was a beautiful, sad, at times happy, and a very therapeutic blog. Sam, we were both outted by someone else and we both know who that was. Why are you saying all this now and so differently than the way it actually happened?

“I made excuses for that by saying you were upset and didn't realize what you posted about me even though I asked you not to.”

Sam, Loretta and others had already posted about it. Loretta said derogatory things about you, your baby and the blog. Others had mentioned it. If you recall, I only said good things about it and even then I didn't use your name. I didn't even know it was your blog and had in fact forgotten about it until Lo brought it up. You know I was trying very hard to defend you and to show others how compassionate you are and how much you and your blog were helpful to others that had lost a baby. As I told you, I had found your blog, long before, through a link at one of Laci's memorial sites.

“I overlooked it because I trusted it was a mistake.......... even though you wouldn't talk to me on the phone, email or IM.”

It was NOT a mistake. I spoke as, and for, a RL friend of mine who had also seen your blog. She had found tremendous comfort from you and others that posted there. It was just one of the many things you had done to help others anonymously, that many here didn't/don't know about.
As you know, I have a very busy RL . From the bashing I received from "U-NO-HOO" and her telling me how furious you were.... (even tho my post was immediately removed after I posted it), and that she admitted to contacting you and telling you her version and interpretation of why I posted what I said, I chose to go away from everything at the blogs, for awhile. I could definitely see where it was going, due to her having to get involved in it, in a negative way and causing tension between us.
Peace 11.15.06 - 5:33 am

“While I was being exposed and blasted on the blog I was behind the scenes trying to make sure you were ok because you exposed me.”

Again. I did not expose you nor was I the one that exposed myself. Loretta and others had already posted about the subject and your blog and your baby. Someone else did the exposing for us.... and we both know who that was.

“When I was exposed by Loretta you never once stood up for me on the blog but before I was exposed in email, phone and IM you were my biggest supporter. You lied and said I allowed Loretta to blame you for things I done on the blogs and at usenet. Peace that wasn't true and told you many times I would out myself to Loretta, your boss or whoever to stop her for blaming you. You asked me not to!”

I don't remember saying that nor even feeling that. Please show proof if I'm mistaken. It was there for all the world to see, that you defended me and stated that you weren't me and that I hadn't posted all the stuff Loretta accused me of posting. Why would I say otherwise? I really do not know why this is coming from you now, but I have my ideas of from where it's coming. I thought we had hashed and re-hashed all the confusion and settled all the misconceptions months ago.

“I asked you not to share my photos with anyone so many times just to have another person you sent them to contact me to tell me how pretty I am.”

You know damn well and so do all the others here, that I NEVER sent a photo of anyone, especially you, at anytime, to anyone, including you.... without asking permission first. Why even say that? If anyone has a pic of you, from me, YOU said it was OK!

“When I was dealing with Loretta exposing me on the blogs you remained silent. But when Katie blasted me on the blogs you supported her and went so far as to call me a liar. You also said you were closer to Katie, Anita and Andrea than anyone else on the blogs in public.”

Sam, Common. Please be serious and truthful. When did I ever call you a liar. Liar isn't a word I use, especially about someone I care(d) about. Ask all the others if I didn't say many times, that I didn't think Sam was to blame completely. Nor that I had all the details...(I had been away right before). If anything, I defended you, but also said I understood why others were angry. I didn't understand completely, at the time, and I still don't, why all the emotional outbursts and name calling.
Peace 11.15.06 - 5:34 am

“But in private it was me and you spoke poorly of your real friends. It wasn't that I had to be the closest friend to you, it was that you lied to me and said I was.”

Who were the real friends I spoke poorly of? I agree there were some POSTS that both YOU AND I spoke about and laughed at and couldn't figure out and thought were weird..... but really, who did I bash or say I didn't like? Are you talking about in the beginning? When neither of us knew anyone very well? Wasn't it when, so long ago, no one was a real friend, but were just other people we "met" with whom to bash Loretta? I haven't spoken to you since I've felt I've become close to anyone here.

“It wasn't that I had to be the closest friend to you, it was that you lied to me and said I was. You had me believing you hand my back, and that you really cared.”

You WERE my closest friend, Sam. And yes, I meant it when I told you that you were. And you were, until you and the other poster blamed me for something I did, and turned it all around, when I thought I was helping you.

“But in truth you talked the worst about me behind my back. You used me to gain information about your other friends. You lied to my face! You shared my secrets with your real closest friends.”

OMG... SAM. To whom did I talk the worst about you behind your back? Of whom, what friends, anyone, did I try to gain info about? When did I lie to your face? And what secrets did I share? Are you sure you don't have me confused with someone else? Or that maybe SOMEONE ELSE has told YOU some lies? I'd prefer some actual details, than just these generalizations. I'm totally lost here, by all your accusations.

“Peace when I said I cared about you I meant it. I wasn't trying to use you to gain inside information. That will always hurt but I forgave you on the phone while you were lying to my face about what you said about me in those email.”

I never felt you were trying to gain inside info from me. I know very little info anyway and I surely don't go looking for it nor do I try to make anyone tell me secrets about others. I'm too old for this and I have a very busy and fulfilling RL, to figure out what all is going on here. The thing I hate more than anything, is for the friends I have made, on "both sides" to be angry at each other. That includes friends I made at Misfits, at Psyche's Knot and all the blogs I've contributed to, since.

“Yes Peace I knew you were lying but I didn't care, because I cared about you the person more than any blog war. ~Samantha 11.14.06 - 8:08 pm”

I wish you'd point out the lies, because, as usual, I'm very much baffled. Not only by what you've posted here, to just me, but by a lot of other stuff being said and taking place. I did apologize to you and to NM a few days ago, for any hurt I caused you, when you both did what you thought was right in helping end the war with Loretta. I was and still am confused about all the details. Obviously, you don't accept my apology.

And since I haven't been following all what's taking place here, now, I am very much confused about all the tension between all of us. And all the accusations and the bringing up of "old stuff." At one time or other, all of us who've been here from the beginning, and who Loretta has outted, have been highly emotional... angry, sad, embarrassed, ecstatic and a lot at different times. We have reached a goal, regardless how and by whom... Loretta has changed for now and for that, we should all be partying together. Not fighting about stupid details about who, what, when and how. And certainly not bashing each other. Not NOW!!!!
Peace 11.15.06 - 5:35 am

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“And I swear to God I didn't want to think Anita, Katie, Andrea and Peace were behind this but after everything I found well I'm certain it's them.”
~Chrishina Leann Hart (2/2/07) - sooner@doglover.com

"When a man points a finger at someone else, he should remember that four of his fingers are pointing at himself". ~Louis Nizer

Why's In Left Field - Part 4

2007-12-21T22:22:00.000-05:00

My neighbor, who is in law enforcement, once described the various methods predators employ in gathering personal data about their targets. The examples he cited based on his professional experience are alarming. He is the father of four delightful young ones and has valid concerns about the safety of children. He explained the risks involved in offering information with respect to minor children regardless of how legitimate the inquirer’s credentials seem.

In this age of electronic communication it is imperative that we individually assume the responsibility of protecting the most vulnerable among us. Anyone that doesn’t support this perspective is in dire need of a moral compass in my opinion.

When Loretta Serrano published the names and locations of minor children at Usenet on 5/20/06 I was appalled by her actions. That outrageous deed was the impetus behind Bloggers’ Hall of Shame. Broadcasting a child’s name and location out of spite is distasteful on any venue, but it’s even more repugnant when advertised on Usenet where the contents are archived by various newsgroups.

Likewise, it was a total disgrace for Chrishina to identify Loretta’s minor children, post links to their photographs, and comment under the names of the misfit’s relatives. Of all the conventional blogs designed to mock Loretta, one stands out in my mind as it contained addresses and phone numbers along with photos of children that belonged to various misfits. Participants at LH2 voiced their objections over the use of the children’s pictures, which eventually disappeared from the website. Most folks did not know who was responsible for the bash blog although Loretta blamed Chrishina. It’s worth noting the offensive blog closed at the time Chrishina Leann Hart negotiated her infamous deal with Loretta.

Timeline:

5/16/06 – Quote from Chrishina’s email:
”I'm not going to send one thing to RRiver, my attorneys can and will however if they think I have a case. The attorney I work for thinks I have a strong case, but he doesn't practice stalking by proxy as he put it lol.”

5/17/06 @ 06:09:25 PDT- Snort! Imagine Chrishina’s legal ‘dream team’ seated around the conference table poring over alleged stalking evidence in the mythical lawsuit against Loretta Serrano, all the while an announcement was made at Usenet regarding the grand opening of a new weblog.

Miss Beehavin on The World Wide Web
(http://www.miss-beehavin.blogspot.com/)
To Err is Human To Err Over and Over and Blame Someone Else Shows True
Fucktard Potenial. Come over and read the truth about Loretta Dillon Serrano
Author: Miss Beehavin

5/17/06 @ 8:24:57 PDT – A Usenet poster issued a stern warning...
“Learn how to use a computer keyboard, you google-posting fuckwit.”

"Miss Beehavin" wrote in message news: 1147871360.862709.142750_at_38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> IT ME FURST DAY ON DA INNTERNET!

5/20/06 @ 00:20:42 PDT – Chrishina demonstrated her “True Fucktard Potential” by harassing Loretta at Usenet under the nic, “Kathleen Dillemuth”.

5/20/06 @ 07:01:18 PDT – Loretta confirmed the IP 24.183.203.150 belonging to Chrishina Leann Hart of Tennessee matched those of the “Miss Beehavin” and “Kathleen Dillemuth” posters.

5/20/2006 @ 8:42:30 PM – Loretta Serrano published the legal names, birth dates, and location of minor children unrelated to her at Usenet, which she attributed to “someone’s good sleuthing”.

5/21/06 @ 06:52:29 GMT – Another reprimand...
”Please stay away from my newsgroup, you google-posting fuckwit.”

"Kathleen Dillemuth" wrote in message
"I AM A BIG FAT STUPID WHINER WITH A BIG
SMELLY BEHIND AND I EAT DOGGIE POO"

5/21/06 @ 16:41:21 PDT- Usenet:
After months of defaming, browbeating, and threatening Loretta Serrano under several identities at Usenet, Chrishina announced she was prepared to defend herself against Loretta’s (cough) attacks!

5/21/06 @ 7:14 pm - Usenet
Chrishina posting as Kathleen Dillemuth lied through her keyboard denying she ever posted Loretta’s children’s names, addresses, and birthdays. She then reproduced an old post by Loretta… “People at the Big Top”, which listed nics, real names and locations of Chrishina’s professed FRIENDS!

Chrishina’s finale at Usenet as Kathleen Dillemuth:
(21-May-06 23:39 PDT) – Part One by Walter Cronkite
(21-May-06 23:41 PDT) – Part Two by Walter Cronkite
(21-May-06 23:43 PDT) - Part Three by Walter Cronkite
(21-May-06 23:47 PDT) – Part Four by Walter Cronkite
(22-May-06 00:08 PDT) – Mel and Bri’s Downhill Slide, I & II
(22-May-06 00:12 PDT) - Chicken Soup for the Barfly's Soul

5/22/06 @ 12:22 am– An alarm sounded over what was transpiring at Usenet. People who read the “Kathleen Dillemuth” comments opined the author was over the top. Some theorized the KD poster was likely the same person that hosted the lorettaserranodillon.blogspot site as well.

5/22/06 - @ 4:42 am – Chrishina sent a "Good Bye" communication to her "friends" requesting removal from “ALL” email lists. Friends who did write to Chrishina received the following notice with their returned mail:
”This email address is set on vacation and will soon be deleted. I will not recieve emails to this email address. Wishing you the Best Life has to Offer Good-bye"

5/22/06 @ 8:40 am - All posts authored by “Kathleen Dillemuth” were deleted, but the backslider hadn’t completed her end of the agreement.

Newsgroups: misc.legal
From: "RetzQ"
Date: 22 May 2006 06:40:09 -0700
Local: Mon, May 22 2006 8:40 am
Subject: Re: Loretta Dillon is Stone Cold Guilty

“Shina, you need to get rid of this thread using my daughter's names and fraudulently using my name, too. I hope you can remember your passwords to all these accounts.”
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.legal/browse_frm/thread/1546ab8ddf5ac936?scoring=d&q=Loretta+Serrano

(It's the account that was banned for violating the group's TOS)

5/24/06 – Shina’s Tribute blog created by Anne Curi was disabled!

5/25/06 – A friend who made contact with Chrishina reported that “Samantha” denied she was the “Kathleen Dillemuth” poster at Usenet.

5/25/06 – From Shina’s blog:
“See there was this thing that had been sucking the life blood out of me for months now. I had been distancing myself from it for awhile, but there was a flare up this past week and instead of ignoring the bullshit, I went in for war. Stupid stupid mistake.

The other day I decided NO MORE. No more emails, posts, two faced people, strangers on the internet, no favors, no phone calls, no contact from anyone involved regardless of who it is, no more bullshit period. Life is too short to spend it fighting a losing battle. And if my "friends" can't understand that, then I don't need them as "friends". There are a few people in the crowd that I will miss and hold close to my heart forever. But for the most part parting isn't always sweet sorrow or such shit like that, it's a relief. I was upset and hurt at first especially when I found out some of the people I thought were "friends" were truly cowards using me to do their dirty work. ~Deep Sigh~ It's now over and will remain behind me forever.”

5/26/06 @ 4:09 pm - After discovering Loretta circulated emails the renegade had sent her, Chrishina claimed, “I am not going to have further contact with them ever.” She lashed out at her “friends” saying both sides deserved each other, accused them of enjoying the “freak show”, and demanded her name be left out of it. She offered copies of email exchanges with Loretta and Vero as proof of her controversial alienation from the misfits.

5/27/06 – Loretta’s sister sent notification that her email account had been hacked into, which further compromised people’s privacy.

5/28/06 – Having burned the candle at both ends, Chrishina, the self-appointed spokesperson during negotiations with Loretta Serrano, left her “friends” hanging as they waited for an explanation. Rather than face them head on, the stoolie filtered her version of the misfitting deal of the century through other channels:

1. She was angered by the fact that people who had previously encouraged her were subsequently upset with her recent activities.

2. She deleted posts due to unfavorable reviews and supposedly to ensure that the wrong people didn’t get blamed for what she had written.

3. And to be certain Loretta got the message, she phoned the misfit with intentions of confessing to exactly which posts she had made in order to clear any other suspects.

4. She told Loretta that she was responsible for every post at Usenet that Peace had been condemned for seven months earlier.

5. She sent copies of her “friends” emails with the addy’s intact just to prove Loretta’s accusations were wrong.

EIGHT from Loretta’s sister as proof that Mimi was posting at LH2.

One from TMM as proof that Cathy was posting at LH2.

One from Katie as proof that nobody wanted to hurt Monica.

One from Anita that spoke of not being savvy about finding things on the Internet.

One from Chrishina related to Loretta going the distance to gather information about her.

One from Andrea as proof of Andrea’s kindness toward former and current misfits.

Two phone conversations with Loretta were not enough for Chrishina to spill her guts on behalf of her "friends". She reinforced those calls with a follow-up email, which was posted at LH2.

“Loretta,

I do want to clarify a couple of things I said. I was reading and talking at the same time, not good lol.

JA has never that I've seen posted personal information about you, your kids or family. She gets highly pissed when someone does post that kind of information, no I'm serious she gets very upset. Because she knows you or someone will do the same to them. She has spoken with Mimi and Cathy on the phone. JA doesn't share what was said by them about you with the email group or me personally. I wouldn't even know about Cathy if it hadn't been for TMM sending me that email. JA at one time wanted information on CG because of threats being made about her daughter or something like that. It had nothing to do with the Brown Case I was mistaken. It's been a few months back since that happened too. She was really worried about CG contacting her daughter at one time. She only posts as herself on the blog too.

Peace bless her she has no idea about much of anything (*added to be sure she knows that I was only meaning at the blog), no really she doesn't. She like me believes everything she is told and doesn't think to research the information. She and I think a lot alike. Why would our friends lie to us? I still hold out hope for Peace. Also Peace is very terrified of you and wants to be left out of all things LH, but again like me she gets emailed these things "you" are saying about her. She has never posted your personal information anywhere. And she is another one that doesn't post except using her real nick Peace.

Anita seems like she really wants this all to stop. From what I know she hasn't posted information about your kids any where on the net. I have heard she has cried a lot over things that have been posted on both sides. She rarely ever emails the group and it's been that way since she shut down her blog. That is until recently when that stuff was posted about her kids, and it was soon after that I told them not to contact me again, so anything after that I don't know.

KCL has emailed the group a handful of times and other than that one email about Monica what she posts on the blog is what she emails too. Very inactive behind the scenes of the blog as far as I know anyway.

TMM well she is a busy body and is in everybody's business. IMO she lives, eats and breaths that blog. She is the one with the dirt on everybody as far as I can tell. She also posts as lots of people on the blog.

Andrea is mostly inactive. She disagrees with a lot of what is said at both blogs. She wants it all to stop and had pretty much went about her business until the thing with Anita's kids. She doesn't email much at all either.

BabyGirl is well BabyGirl. She doesn't email at all. What she says on the blog is all she says to anyone that I know of. The last time we talked she didn't even mention your name. BabyGirl is loud but she really isn't all about stalking or harming you. She disappears for long periods of time too.

Mimi well you know who that is enough said.

Sweet Sister you know who that is too. I believe she is feeding people a lot of lies and is keeping this flame war going. I lay most of the blame on her for this blog still being active at all.

Kris Mat have no idea who that is.

Closet is very inactive. Never emails and seldom posts anything on the blog. I think she got a job.

Samantha is a stupid troll who didn't have the common sense God gave a piss ant to know better than to trust strangers on the Internet. I is not smart lol! At least not smart enough to see how truly stupid I acted over a big bunch of nothing.

According to V there are a new set of posters at the blog. Recently departed misfits I think is what she said. The original group with those few exceptions have moved on. She is mostly inactive and never emails either. She hosts the blog but does little to maintain it. She is the one who had the information about your DL etc but to my knowledge only emailed it but never posted it.

Most of the anonymous people are just that anonymous. I have no idea who they are or what their problem with you is. No one knows who K. Mon or the butt person at usenet.

It's said and I can't remember by who that you have current friends at misfits that are leaking information to others. Don't know how true that is, but thought you should know.”

UNBELIEVEABLE!

One can invent hundreds of excuses for delinquent behavior, but it will never diminish the fact that Chrishina Leann Hart’s actions were offensive, irresponsible and inexcusable. In the aftermath, there’s still one question lingering in the air. Why?

Multiple choice:

a) ”The number one reason is I can't take the stress of trying to please everyone all the time.” 5/22/06

b) “See there was this thing that had been sucking the life blood out of me for months now.” 5/25/06

c) “Some of the people I thought were "friends" were truly cowards using me to do their dirty work.” 5/25/06

d) “I know they're good people, who I thought were being used to fight a battle that didn't concern them.” 5/26/06

e) “Because I thought you (Loretta) had been unfairly attacked because people where instigating attacks and exaggerating your past.” 5/26/06

f) “I still think people are being used at LH's by people from your family to fight their battles for them.” 5/26/06

g) “I opened up to you (Loretta) and done what I thought was right.” 5/26/06

h) “Samantha is a stupid troll who didn't have the common sense God gave a piss ant to know better than to trust strangers on the Internet.” 5/06

i) The “stupid troll” who doesn’t have the common sense God gave a slug is still teething, has a short fuse, can’t deal with constructive criticism, and was ticked off because “friends” were upset with her for what she did at Usenet and her blog. Period! 12/21/07

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“The other day I decided NO MORE. No more emails, posts, two faced people, strangers on the internet, no favors, no phone calls, no contact from anyone involved regardless of who it is, no more bullshit period. Life is too short to spend it fighting a losing battle.” ~Chrishina aka Shina Hart 5/25/06

Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:53:48 -0300
From: "Anne Curi" <annecuri@gmail.com>
To: SamanthaHeart@gmail.com, shinahart@gmail.com
Subject: Your comment at Katiec**lady's Tribute Blog

HO! HO! HO!
He's making a list and checking it twice;
Gonna find out Who's naughty and nice…

Why's In Left Field - Part 3

2007-12-05T13:59:00.000-05:00

I was never able to reconcile Chrishina Leann Hart’s act of treason in May 2006. Since the betrayal didn’t involve me, I watched the fallout as a bewildered silent spectator.

I remember one of the first reactions to the sordid mess was when an agitated Anonymous poster expressed disgust at the “Judas Kiss” to which Chrishina responded with a brusque “Fuck You”! I recall reading a pompous self-serving narrative at Shina’s blog that served as a poor substitute for a much-needed honest explanation of her spontaneous sabotage. It was a belligerent entry as opposed to apologetic and so I viewed it with cautious skepticism.

Over time, lies become firmly entrenched due to poor fact checking and since details never add up with Chrishina Leann Hart of Tennessee, her perpetual myths necessitate closer examination.

Reality Check:

Chrishina admitted that during the Peterson trial she engaged in clandestine activities at CTV. She informed a few of us that her principal function at the popular message board was identifying comments authored by Loretta and the misfits. She gloated over reporting them to Coldwater and how the respective posters were thereafter banned. Chrishina didn’t say she targeted the misfits at CTV on behalf of friends, she simply relished the role of whistleblower.

There is also material evidence (Posted by Troll or is it Mole? at November 5, 2004 02:27 AM) that Chrishina trolled the misfitting site in 2004, which is tangible proof “the shitload of fun” harassed Loretta and the misfits long before Bogbusters or subsequent blogs ever existed.

After connecting with a group of people who gathered at Bogbusters to discuss Loretta Serrano and her notorious online activities, Chrishina wrote:

”Really LowBitch since when? Anyway be ready for the hell about to come down on your head BITCH! You haven't seen trolling till you fuck with a troll's friends! And LowBitch that's not a threat it's a promise! ~11.06.05 - 10:00 pm
Samantha (Chrishina Leann Hart)“

Chrishina’s veracity was precarious to say the least. She sent her online friends photos of an attractive young woman claiming the images were of her. She certainly wasn’t up front with her purported friends and fashioned tall tales such as the following on May 16, 2006:

“Sorry it took me so long to reply, it was one of those days~gah. I actually spoke with 4 officers at RRPD each one told me something different.

First one was very concerned when I read him what she had written. He immediately sent someone to her home. Of course she's not there, and me not being the cruel bitch she claims didn't send them to her job. This officer also told me to gather my evidence and send the file to them as well as the District Attorney's Office.

Second and third said about the same things but offered this lovely advice. Just turn the computer off and ignore her. Uh huh ok. But the last officer I spoke with said they have been to her home several times and they finally spoke with her. Of course she had a different story to tell and said she was going to sue me for you name it and then some. He said he told her he didn't care what the reason or how justified she felt it's still stalking. That she better hope she can prove what she has written on the Internet about me, because they're turning the files over to the state as soon as they are received.

The stupid bitch openly admitted to sending people to TN! He said she tried to laugh and make jokes but he let her know this was not a social call. She also showed him the blogs that were created in hopes that we would stop stalking her. He said he told her that doesn't make sense. Since when do you commit a crime to solve a crime? He also let me know that if she can prove I have stalked her she too can press charges. But get this. I haven't stalked her according to the law. I have never been to OH or sent anyone there to threaten or research her so I could threaten her. That's where she screwed up.

Anyway RRPD is very aware of the situation and gave me this piece of advice too. Stay away from this woman she's not stable.

Now that she has openly admitted to stalking me (to a cop!) which will be in the police report her ass is going to court if not jail. Dad is also fed up with her and he plans to contact RRPD today. He said if he has to fly there today he will, but this bitch is going to leave his family alone. How stupid can you be to stalk a cop's daughter? Not only that but brag about it to the cop who is there to make a report?

Loretta Serrano a Fucktard? Absolutely!

I have to get in the shower and get ready to meet with the attorneys. I'm not going to send one thing to RRiver, my attorneys can and will however if they think I have a case. The attorney I work for thinks I have a strong case, but he doesn't practice stalking by proxy as he put it lol.
Ok I'm off hope everyone has a great day!”

LOL! I'm always amused when grown children allegedly rely on their parent’s assistance when, in reality, they should bear responsibility for their own foolhardy dilemmas. The fact of the matter is Chrishina does have a "strong case", which isn’t related to stalking, but it's homogeneous with indebtedness.

If Mr. Canler were trained in law enforcement he would have instructed his adult offspring to wake up and smell the coffee, turn the computer off, and seek gainful employment. Had he investigated his daughter’s abhorrent online activities he would have discovered that Chrishina Leann Hart is a virtual cyber punk, a high-octane cyberstalker, and the primary source of endless online social turbulence!

FLASHBACK!

On 10/9/05, Chrishina Leann Hart filed a voluntary petition for bankruptcy as a joint Debtor under Chapter 13 along with a request to pay the filing fees in installments. The petition was classified as Individual, Consumer/ Non Business in the state of Tennessee with Chrishina’s occupation categorized as a homemaker. The debtor’s prior bankruptcy of 4/3/01 was duly noted as were personal property items such as, 2 computers, 2 TVS, and three dogs.

Within four days, Chrishina using the nic anony.authorunknown, published Loretta Serrano’s address at the Usenet forum as well as a link to a google map to her residence. Post after post Chrishina Leann Hart strenuously pursued Loretta Serrano each time revealing more particulars about her prey.

http://www.mailarchive.ca/lists/misc.legal/2005-10/author.html

From (Chrishina): <anony.authorunknown_at_gmail.com>
Date: 15 Oct 2005 19:15:03 –0700
"You ready to play? You may want to get your groupies I have lots to share with you about a cyber stalker, and I wouldn't want them to miss a thing. Did you hear me? GO GET YOUR GROUPIES! I'll be waiting!"

From (Chrishina): <anony.authorunknown_at_gmail.com>
Date: 15 Oct 2005 19:26:55 –0700
"I am paging a Loretta Marie Dillemuth, Smith, Tucker, Serrano, Dillon. The same one who runs a weblog named misfitting.com, the same Loretta who published her web log and called it a book about the Scott Peterson case. Father is B*RN*RD DILL*MUTH and mother is KATHLEEN M*NAGHAN DILL*MUTH of CLEVELAND, AVON LAKE OHIO"

Chrishina summarized Loretta’s marital history, pronounced her unfit as a mother while referring to her as a drunk, drug abuser, and other vulgar names. She crossed the line of decency by naming anyone related to her target along with their respective locations and provided links to photos of Loretta’s offspring, which included minor children. Chrishina also tracked and published Loretta’s IP among others.

From (Chrishina): <anony.authorunknown_at_gmail.com>
Date: 15 Oct 2005 20:40:59 –0700
68.110.185.183 OHIO PARMA US UNITED STATES COX COMMUNICATIONS

From (Chrishina): RetzQ3 <LorettaDillon_at_gmail.com>
Date: 30 Oct 2005 09:28:50 -0800
Location information for 24.29.31.169
WESTWOOD, Ohio, United States
Loretta Dillon have we created another nick? LOL

Chrishina publicized a personal email allegedly composed by a member of Loretta’s family. She posted a link to a photo of Loretta, which gradually transformed the image into a dreadful looking creature. All of the above were posted in duplicate and triplicate on various threads using different nics by the impoverished frenzied lunatic. Records indicate that Chrishina Leann Hart was, without a doubt, the aggressor at Usenet all the while exhibiting social deviant behavior.

Inasmuch as Chrishina insisted “LowBitch” had “never hurt her feelings” the question is what fueled her uncivilized course of action? As her reprehensible conduct escalated she not only posted details of Loretta’s driver’s record, but also those of the misfit's daughter and Loretta's estranged husband.

Only a flipping idiot would complain to the RRPD in light of the extensive online documentation of her own obtrusive stalking behavior. If Loretta Serrano dispatched anyone to Tennessee it should have been the men in white coats!

When Chrishina impersonated Loretta’s adult daughters a casual observer, (krp ~) at Usenet wrote, “I thought I had seen about every disgusting thing on the net I could see. This is up there.”

The account Chrishina used for the repulsive offense was subsequently banned for violating Google Group’s Terms of Service, but that didn’t stop the charlatan from assuming other identities.

From: Loretta Serrano (Chrishina)<Retzq1_at_gmail.com>
Date: 31 Oct 2005 12:17:34 –0800

Loretta wrote: "BTW - I have re-registered through Google using my legal name. Should anyone register using this exact name and post as though they are me, would constitute identity fraud. It's one thing to rip off a nickname, it's another matter to take my legal name and post with it on Usenet with an AOL IP (and I never have and never will have an AOL account)- that would probably constitute actual fraud. A word to the wise. Not that trolls are wise, but their stupidity can become criminal."

“ROTF LMAO! BITE ME BITCH! BETTER YET SUE ME!”

Now there’s an interesting challenge from someone who forfeited control of her financial life to a court appointed trustee three times due to her own negligence. A codependent that has no concept of what self-reliance means without succor from the US Bankruptcy Courts. An indolent harridan whose claim to fame is spending countless hours on the Internet divulging personal information about people and then crying foul when the victims of her uncontrolled rage take her to task for her calculated lies, groundless allegations, reprehensible innuendo, and contemptible conduct. Loretta would need to take a number and join the line of creditors waiting for payment from Chrishina Leann Hart!

NORTHCREST MEDICAL CENTER V HART
WARRANT NO. 173678
SUIT FOR DEBT
ROBERTSON COUNTY
GENERAL SESSIONS COURT
SPRINGFIELD, TENNESSEE
PENDING

I should mention at this time that it’s rather hypocritical of Loretta to complain about the misuse of her legal name considering the number of blogs that were created, at random, in other people’s legal names with her blessing and major contributions. Nevertheless, one of the most astonishing acts of stupidity I have ever witnessed is that Loretta blamed the wrong person for stalking her at Usenet just because the poster was an AOL user.

From: RetzQ2 <lmds_at_visn.net>
Date: 29 Oct 2005 07:49:47 -0700
I sent one e-mail to her editor at JM making him aware of his "victim's advocate" guest writer bashing people from my site (and me) on that bogbuster site. It is a very unprofessional way in which a person who wants to be taken seriously as a victim's advocate should behave. I'm sure if I had a column that she and a few others would have sent my (out of context) opinion about New Orleans and the scum drowning in the flood to whomever would read it. As it is, they have posted it all over cyberspace.

By the way, I am not ashamed of that opinion and I still wish the scum of NOLA had all drowned. Too bad they didn't. You really should do your homework before you jump down people's throats. It's so repulsive and such a poor way to get a point across.

I posted D*anna's email to me to demonstrate the remarkable disparity between her adulation and gushing praise of me a year ago, and her flagrant, vile, obscene attacks of me today over here on Usenet. Did I start that nonsense? No. Again, if people are going to attack me with words I allegedly said, I can show words they REALLY SAID to support my side of the story.

From: RetzQ2 <lmds_at_visn.net>
Date: 29 Oct 2005 21:23:33 -0700
“D*anna's IP coincidentally matches all the fake impersonations of my name, that of my daughters', the troll posting the "Personal Ad," the troll posting family names and other information, map to my house, my kids' pictures, other defamatory remarks, profanity, lewd comments and other psychotic garbage.

She obviously has a serious mental illness. She should get a bed at the facility where she works - if she still works there. She's been busted for her online activities, apparently. That's life in the big city. What goes around comes around, D*anna. I hope you get what you deserve. It's not going to be pretty. “

From: RetzQ2 <lmds_at_visn.net>
Date: 30 Oct 2005 06:24:44 -0800
205.188.117.14
Forking MOWron. It's the same IP - every single one of this stupid woman's trolling posts and fake names is the EXACT SAME IP! No other person here is using that IP. She's so stupid, she is a danger to herself and others.

Fascinating! You really couldn’t make this stuff up!

After Loretta posted all the personal information she could find about D*anna/Peace, including former spouse’s names, son’s names with links to their blogs, and threatened to call her employer, Chrishina Leann Hart made a confession using Loretta's nic.

Newsgroups: misc.legal
From: "RetzQ" (Chrishina)
...@gmail.com>
Date: 31 Oct 2005 00:32:09 -0800
Local: Mon, Oct 31 2005 3:32 am
Subject: Re: Snip~ I do wish that the scum of New Orleans had all

“Loretta my God woman will you just admit to the fact you're wrong and move on? Oh wait you already did once. I am the person posting those pictures of you, your kids, maps, and personal ads. You know that already but you still insist on harassing Peace about it. Why? Because you have her contact information but not mine? You think you're skeery to Peace? Peace is not in afraid of you, nor am I.

I freely admit that it is I who posted that about you, what are you going to do about it? Nothing! Or harass someone else about it? Why not take it up with me? You skeered?”

Recap:
10/09/05 – Chapter 13 Voluntary Petition
10/09/05 - Application to Pay Filing Fees ($194.00) in Installments
10/13/05–10/16/05: anony.authorunknown_at_gmail.com (31)
10/17/05 - Order to Pay Trustee by Payroll Deduction
10/18/05-10/23/05: DrNBuster_at_gmail.com (23)
10/18/05-10/24/05: drnbuster2_at_gmail.com (26)
10/25/05-10/26/05: betchinbanjo_at_gmail.com (22)
10/26/05-10/28/05: JacqandEvonne_at_gmail.com (17)
(This account has been banned because
it violated the Google Groups Terms of Use)
10/29/05: LorettaDillon_at_gmail.com (17)
10/30/05: RetzQ2_at_gmail.com (23)
10/30/05: RetzQ3 <LorettaDillon_at_gmail.com> (15)
10/31/05: Loretta Serrano <Retzq1_at_gmail.com> (3)
10/31/05: misfitting dot com <Retzq1_at_gmail.com> (5)
10/31/05: Retzq1_at_gmail.com (13)
11/1/05-11/4/05: misfitting dot com <Retzq1_at_gmail.com> (7)
11/4/05-11/5/05 : RetzQ <Retzq1_at_gmail.com> (10)
11/5/05: r..._at_misfitting.com (23)
11/6/05-11/13/05: Samantha <BBSamantha_at_gmail.com> (66)
11/15/05 - Notice of Appearance and Request for Service
pursuant to Rule 2002 (On behalf of the Finance Company)
11/19/05-11/20/05: <SamanthaBB_at_gmail.com> (4)
11/21/05: LoverofCandles_at_gmail.com (2)
11/22/05 - Meeting of Creditors Chapter 13
341(a) meeting at 01:00 PM
11/23/05 - Order for Payroll Deduction
Amended to increase deduction.
11/23/05 - Order Confirming Chapter 13 Plan
5/17/06-5/18/06: Miss Beehavin <beaconoftruth_at_aol.com> (3)
5/18/06-5/19/06: MissBeehavin1959_at_gmail.com (2)
5/20/06-5/22/06: KathleenDillemuth_at_gmail.com (40)

Accumulating more than three hundred derisive comments at Usenet in two months, Chrishina played fast and loose with personal information hurling captious insults at anyone that responded to her chronic intrusions. When Loretta learned her stalker's identity and turned the tables on Chrishina...
“Miss Beehavin’ didn’t like it one bit.

From: RetzQ - view profile
Date: Wed, May 17 2006 8:43 am
Email: "RetzQ"
Groups: misc.legal
“If I hear from any LE people, I'll be delighted to bring the 1" and growing dossier on Shina Hart. It would actually be quite interesting. But, I'm sure Ms. Hart has no intentions of bringing LE into her little games. Instead, she just creates more bashing blogs like a 5th grader. I have no time for it.”

MissBeehavin1959_at_gmail.com ~Fri May 19 2006 - 22:42:01 PDT
“The point is you Loretta Smith aka Loretta Serrano falsely accuse people of things they've not done because you can't prove their identify so you just pull one of the names you do know out of the hat and run with it. Then one day you're proven wrong about your accusations and still you refuse to admit you were wrong. That's the point Loretta Dillon aka Loretta Serrano aka Loretta Serrano Dillon aka Loretta Dillon Serrano aka Fucktard Bitch Trog! Speaking of slanderous bashing blogs how many do you do co-own about numerous people?”

Chrishina Leann Hart's Blogs:
(Former and current)

http://being-shina.blogspot.com/
http://charlene-vigliotti.blogspot.com/
http://charlene-fucknut-vigliotti.blogspot.com/
http://chrishinahart.blogspot.com/
http://chrishina-hart.blogspot.com/
http://chrishinaleannhart.blogspot.com/
http://exposingshinahart.blogspot.com/
http://hartswife.blogspot.com/
http://heart-bitch.blogspot.com/
http://kennethmichaelhart.blogspot.com/
http://michaelandchrishinahart.blogspot.com/
http://michaelandshina.blogspot.com/
http://michaelandshinahart.blogspot.com/
http://miss-beehavin.blogspot.com/
http://mrsfalsepositive.blogspot.com/
http://realchrishinahart.blogspot.com/
http://samanthaheart.blogspot.com/
http://shinahart.blogspot.com/
http://shina-hart.blogspot.com/
http://therealshinahart.blogspot.com/
lorettaserranodillon.blogspot
lorettaserranoisacyberstalker.blogspot
lorettaserranoisaf*tard.blogspot

A few of the hate blogs Chrishina created didn’t focus on Loretta exclusively. The self-professed troll targeted any misfit she had compiled information about and published personal details including locations and home phone numbers. She willfully included photographs of relatives and minor children that were lifted from various misfit websites.

About the phone calls to RRPD? Here's what Loretta had to say!

Usenet: Retzq - May 20, 2006 @ 11:06 AM
“Well, regardless of where you trace it, I happen to know for a FACT that the IP 24.183.203.150 belongs to Shina Hart of Tennessee. She lives near Clarksville, in Springfield. This woman is a self-professed "troll" and harasser and has bragged here on Usent, in Muttville, and on my blog about her menacing and malicious online antics for the past two years.

Recently, she has claimed to have called the local police to report me for stalking and harassing her. This is quite funny. I have yet to hear from anyone. Meanwhile, she continues to create nicks to harass me on Usenet. (Note that she continues to follow me here), and now she's using names of members of my family (again, like she did last fall) to harass me.

Obviously in her manic mode last night (she is mentally ill by her own admission and probably needs medication to combat the manic phases), she was too impulsive and careless to change over to AOL or at least to use a proxy to post. Thus, she posted using the same IP to answer herself using "MissBehavin" and KathleenD. Oops. Note also that she did this at 3 in the morning.

The only reason I am even responding to this is to have it on the record just in case she and your little mutt pals get it in their cotton candy brains to try and prove that Shina Hart is innocent of harassment, defamation, malicious mischief, stalking, and other online terrorism.“

From: Kathleen Dillemuth (Chrishina)<KathleenDillemuth_at_gmail.com>
Date: 20 May 2006 17:17:15 -0700
"Hey Loretta Dillon aka Loretta Serrano call Shina at 1-615-346-2800!"

(Rejection Hotline) - TENNESSEE
901-328-8380 (Memphis), 615-346-2800 (Nashville)

From: Kathleen Dillemuth (Chrishina)
Date: 21 May 2006 16:41:16 –0700
"Hello Everybody! Since Loretta has refused to leave me alone I have no choice but to defend myself against her attacks. ~pah such is life."

I imagine this is when Chrishina Leann Hart made the critical decision to defect and subsequently hung her friends out to dry! It's a reasonable assumption that she made one heck of a sweet deal with Loretta Serrano considering her Tribute Blog was suspended for five months while those remaining were periodically updated. What a pathetic loser!

Daddy must be so proud of his little girl’s lifetime achievements!

Why's In Left Field - Part 2

2007-11-08T08:14:00.001-05:00

In case you missed it the first time ...

“Zero I'm not the one full of hatred and stupidity. You need to turn your old boney finger around. I don't hate easily but I do hate you and Loretta, not dislike, hate bitch I hate you.”
~Response From::
Shina Hart aka
Chrishina Leann Hart
http://shina-hart.blogspot.com/
Friday, November 03, 2006
---fuckoffanddieloretta---

Why all the hate?

Usenet: Samantha (Shina) - 11/9/05 @ 8:00 pm
“As far the hurt feelings, that has nothing to do with me. LowBitch has never hurt my feelings, I didn't like her from the get go so I never gave her the chance. However after reading the stories shared about LowBitch, I would have to say you're wrong about it only being on her website.“

Usenet: Samantha (Shina) - 11/9/05 @ 8:00 pm
“Your friend LowBitch posted a bounty for JA and Anita's personal information FIRST. Not to mention what was done to Katie and others!”

Chrishina Leann Hart ruthlessly pursued Loretta Serrano, not on her own behalf apparently, but for the benefit of Internet friends? The same person who, at 32, has never accepted financial responsibility a day in her life! The activist who sits on her sorry ass inscribing online petitions to save animals all the while her personal welfare hinges on protection from the US Bankruptcy Court. Chrishina Leann Hart who independently made a conscious decision to betray those same Internet friends! Why?

Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:53:48 -0300
From: "Anne Curi" <annecuri@gmail.com>
To: SamanthaHeart@gmail.com, shinahart@gmail.com
Subject: Your comment at Katiec**lady's Tribute Blog

"I didn't give that informaion about Jordy and you know it! Why are you lying? Fuck woman you have enough truth why add lies to it? I never even mentioned Jordy's name EVER! Loretta I have left you alone, but if you continue to drag me into this shit I'll have no choice but to defend myself against these lies. I don't want to spend another moment on you, so LET IT BEGIN WITH YOU! GET IT? LET IT BEGIN WITH YOU!"

"Shina,

I know that the last couple of days have been very hard for you. And I am sorry.

First, know that I am, for real, Anne - a different person - not Loretta.

As someone who is trying to end this meaningless blog war, I have contacted you before, through that comment at your Blog (Samantha's Heart), in the means of "negotiating" a truce. It looked like it was working.

So far, we were able to shut down both "hate" blogs that were in our control (yours and mine). Loretta was very cooperative, as well. Nobody in our camp went against you, nor betrayed the truce (not that we know about). We haven't sent any e-mail to the other camp. We haven't said anything bad about you (believe me, even the "kitchen talk").

On the other hand, the other camp has been very non-supportive on any try to end the war, because of personal agendas, and you smartly realized that. They haven't even tried to understand you and your motives. They have been creating false rumours, as well. The good point is that it looks like some of the people that were there are starting to realize they have been used to fill someones else agenda.

In my attempt to end this war, I have been posting what I perceive as being the truth and what I think can help open some eyes and make others conscious of their wrong actions.

It is not my intention to do any harm to you. I didn't even mention your RL name and I will remain in this path as long as possible. If you go there and read it calmly, you will realize that I've never said you gave the information about Jordy. Kathy herself did. What I said was, yes, you did send us some e-mails through Loretta (like the one I asked her to go back one paragraph) and I also showed them that we had other e-mails, but I left it open for her to think if they have a mole or if it was you.

Please forgive me if it gave you the impression I was dragging you into it. It wasn't intended to. And Loretta has nothing to do with it. (Could be a Language problem of mine too, as English is not my first Language).

Sincerely,
*Anne *

PS. By the way, you used again Loretta's name in a "dirty" way at your Blog. She doesn't mind about it. But* I* think you should not use her name this way anymore. It does no good to nobody. Help us end this meaningless war."

(Email: courtesy of Chrishina Leann Hart)

ROFL! That’s Shina protesting the way things are being handled in her little counterintelligence mission. Given the fact that Chrishina Leann Hart has spent a decade putting the screws to people over and over in real life, it comes as no surprise that the confirmed pathetic loser vilified her former “Internet friends”, yet again, with false accusations in connection with another dastardly deed!

” Ok before anybody thinks or says I'ver changed teams I didn't. I was playing along trying to get information about Anne. I found both of the emailers condesending, sickening, an attempt to send messages of Loretta's fake great life (gag me) and full of lies-especially Monkey Monica. For some reason though I did believe them about Anne and Loretta not doing the hate blog this time.

Call me stupid but I just don't think it's them this time. It's bothering me so much about finding out who it is I've spent the past few days researching the blog itself, links from and to it, old posts by pound peeps past and present, usenet posts, google cache, shit you name it I've looked at it. And I swear to God I didn't want to think Anita, Katie, Andrea and Peace were behind this but after everything I found well I'm certain it's them.”
~Chrishina Leann Hart (2/2/07) - sooner@doglover.com

The lies and deception Chrishina Leann Hart deliberately and maliciously perpetrated end right HERE!

Evidence of her loathsome, reckless behavior is extensive, irrefutable, and indefensible. The damage she has caused is beyond measure and there are no signs of cessation. Any person who thinks I will tolerate defamation by a shiftless, reprehensible 32-year-old delinquent who refuses to get her act together is sadly mistaken. Chrishina Leann Hart will be held responsible for her disparagement. Accountability is long PAST DUE!

“FUCK STALKERS!

Yes you little tightwad from Tennessee. You.

Every time you post my photograph on the internet you draw a little arrow toward your head. There's a little cartoon balloon next to it. Inside of the cartoon balloon it reads (here, let me spell it out): "I'm a fucking idiot. I don't know the difference between fantasy and reality."

You want me to post a picture of my ass mooning your moronic brain? Wow! What a find! You could morph that into all kinds of bullshit! And why not? Your life is based on bullshit. You are bullshit. In fact, you pale in comparison to bullshit. Bullshit is sweet compared to you! You're disease.

I will not tolerate being defamed by someone who doesn't even know me. If you think you have some kind of power over me, you are mistaken. You are nothing more than a worthless piece of shit.” ~ Mtnwmn

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Now, there’s a gal who is “much better skilled in the art” of telling it like it is!

CHRISHINA LEANN HART, yes, you little parasite from Tennessee, YOU!

Before you scuff anyone’s boots, you better first learn to shine your own!

You want to screw with me, Chrishina Leann Hart? I suggest you read the writing on the wall and lawyer up, dimwit! Put that burr under the saddle in your next rodeo, cowgirl! Don’t forget to send thank-you notes to your buddies at The Pound for putting the icing on the cake with their implied threats:

“Are you happy, now Charlene, enough blood for you? Or do you want more, more, more.” ~Anonymous 11.03.07 - 9:33

“I'm not going to Papi's blog. I'm not. Anymore. I told you all. Papi is dead to me. Did she write bad shit about me? Cuz if she did, I'm counting on Baby Girl's Mafia connections to get me out of this mess. And you should, too.”
Contessa Blockquotessa 11.04.07 - 7:40 pm

“Samantha, I think if Papi doesn't remove that hate blog against you, I think you have a harassment case. She says she's been remodeling her kitchen. Maybe she has money. Maybe there's money there for all the slander she's spewed against you. And don't forget her using the Internet to dig up embarrassing shit against you. I think that's a crime, too. She did it just for the purpose of hurting you. I think that's a crime.” ~Contessa Blockquotessa 11.04.07 - 11:25 pm

Way to go, Contessa Blockhead! We KNOW, there’s not enough money there in Chapmansboro for the libel Chrishina spouted against her “Internet friends”, eh? What about you, Contessa? Do you have assets or are you three letters short? So you vacationed in Hawaii? Maybe there’s money there in San Fran for all the libel and threats YOU have relentlessly spewed against me, huh? You’re the gift that keeps on giving, Toots!

For the record…

“BG doesn't know my name is Anne. I never told her. But now that you mentioned it, I will. Hi, BG! My name is not contessablockquotessa. My name is Anne, and I live in San Fran. ~Contessa Blockquotessa (Anne) 09.02.07 - 12:32 am

Anne is it? Allow me to offer a piece of unsolicited advice if I may? It’s time to change the bib you’re wearing. It's in need of a good laundering from you slobbering all over it! But before you toss it in the wash, wipe the egg off your face. I’m not really skilled in the art of telling nasty people to "fuck off", but I’ll give it the old college try.

Nafanuttin, Anne from San Fran, but depending on the grade of granite I choose, I may have a jar or two of pennies left. So if I’m “reading between the lines” correctly, the odds are that chump change will add up to more than your IQ!

Uzwitme, Anne?

For starters, I suggest you file your complaint about the bankruptcy information with the Federal Government. You see, Anne, when the government digs irresponsible citizens out of the holes they themselves created, that person becomes a statistic and rightfully so. What you fail to realize is the majority of people who maintain any type of assets potentially worked their butts off for their share of “the good life”! And any citizen funding the government with tax dollars has a right to know how the money is spent!

I notice you’re inclined to dictate how people should live their lives, including persons still mourning the loss of their spouse. I don’t know what makes you think you’re qualified to do so since you haven’t demonstrated you’re a lightening rod for success. You have the right to your opinion, Anne, but the fact that you have the chutzpa to threaten me with “Baby Girl’s aka Francesca’s Mafia connections” most assuredly guarantees unanticipated problems. HOW DARE YOU! It would serve you well to remember that a closed mouth gathers no foot.

” And don't forget her using the Internet to dig up embarrassing shit against you. I think that's a crime, too. She did it just for the purpose of hurting you. I think that's a crime.”

Here’s what I think, Anne…

You have an inferiority complex and it’s fully justified!

If brains were taxed, you would get a refund!

If stupidity were a crime, you’d be America’s MOST WANTED!

I’m not being rude. You’re just insignificant.

Here’s a clue, Anne from San Fran…

”I don't want to spend another moment on you,

so LET IT BEGIN WITH YOU!

GET IT?

LET IT BEGIN WITH YOU! "

“I'm not going to Papi's blog. I'm not. Anymore. I told you all. Papi is dead to me.” ~Contessa Blockquotessa 11.04.07 - 7:40 pm

4th November 2007 - 09:06:02 PM, 09:42:51 PM, 10:05:48 PM, 10:18:29 PM, 10:48:23 PM, 11:38:38 PM, 11:48:11 PM

5th November 2007 - 12:01:27 AM, 12:15:49 AM, 12:26:47 AM, 12:26:59 AM, 12:27:06 AM, 12:27:38 AM, 12:27:48 AM,

12:27:53 AM - gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/2007/10/i-dont-knows-on-third.html gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2007-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&updated-max=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=27

12:47:36 AM - No referring link- gone-with-thewind.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2007-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&updated-max=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=27

01:33:59 AM, 01:34:08 AM, 01:34:14 AM, 08:06:08 AM, 10:09:54 AM, 10:09:58 AM, 08:31:11 PM, 10:48:20 PM

6th November 2007 - 08:45:25 AM, 10:13:03 PM,
7th November 2007 - 11:12:40 AM
8th November 2007 - 01:10:08 AM, 01:12:41 AM, 10:50:48 PM
9th November 2007 - 01:44:02 AM, 01:49:24 AM, 03:14:34 AM, 10:05:36 PM

10th November 2007 - 12:52:38 AM, 09:40:40 AM, 10:38:14 AM, 10:22:33 PM, 11:48:59 PM

11th November 2007 - 01:18:34 AM, 03:33:14 AM, 10:13:42 AM, 01:52:21 PM, 07:34:08 PM, 09:20:06 PM

12th November 2007 - 12:20:09 AM, 12:20:39 AM, 11:52:17 AM, 01:15:05 PM, 01:25:38 PM, 01:30:28 PM, 01:38:44 PM, 01:45:02 PM, 04:09:43 PM, 06:24:46 PM, 10:33:22 PM, 11:48:51 PM

13th November 2007 - 10:49:38 AM, 10:20:24 PM

Now, I ask you… does this woman have both oars in the water?

I didn’t think so.

Why's In Left Field - Part 1

2007-11-07T13:35:00.001-05:00

“Sammy, I couldn't help but think that your post appeared as a goodbye like you're leaving...for a long time...I hope that's not the case, because you crack my happy ass up!”
Toonces the Driving Cat 05.21.07 - 1:39 am

“mkay...I get the feeling that there's a lot going on behind the scenes. Maybe it's paranoia, but Sammy's last post seemed more like a sign off for good kinda' post. Her blog is no longer open, either. I dunno...it's all sorta' crazy around here. Just sayin'.”
Toonces the Driving Cat 05.22.07 - 2:31 am

“Toonces, luv. I think, from the last posting Sammy made on her blog, that she just needs a break and some perspective on life... she says she's unplugging the internet for good but I have a niggling suspicion we'll see our friend online again in the future. There's only so much a person can take (from others and from themselves) before they have to step back and evaluate sometimes. Sammy, in case you're still reading - you are loved and you will be missed. Keep in touch, girl.” ~madisonmutt 05.22.07 - 10:23 am

"BEHIND THE SCENES!"

On May 21, 2007 a “Motion for Relief from the Automatic Stay” was filed at the US Bankruptcy Court in the Middle District of Tennessee. The Movant, a secured creditor, holds the deed of trust and deed of trust note originally executed by Kenneth Michael Hart and Chrishina Leann Hart on April 13, 2005 covering real property located in Tennessee.

Citing applicable Federal Rules of Bankruptcy the Movant summarized pertinent factors in seeking relief from the court. The Debtors were contractually due for the July 1, 2005 payment and post-petition due for the February 1, 2007 payment. Failure to make payments on a regular basis constituted a material default resulting in the Debtors owing interest, late charges, and reasonable attorney fees in addition to the principal balance.

The Movant stated that under the Debtor’s bankruptcy plan the arrearage would not be cured and indeed will only fall further behind, thus making the Chapter 13 no longer attainable. In short, the Movant asked to be allowed to initiate foreclosure proceedings against the property.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Amazing! Chrishina Leann Hart’s world was crumbling around her and she had nothing better to do than expend energy initiating a smear campaign against me. Why?

"A fundamental goal of the federal bankruptcy laws enacted by Congress is to give debtors a financial “fresh start” from burdensome debts. The Supreme Court made this point about the purpose of the bankruptcy law in a 1934 decision: [I]t gives to the honest but unfortunate debtor…a new opportunity in life and a clear field for future effort, unhampered by the pressure and discouragement of preexisting debt."

”Oh you forgot this isn't my first rodeo heh!”
Samantha 02.07.07 - 7:41 pm

Likewise, this wasn’t Samantha’s first attempt at a “fresh start”. Chrishina Leann Canler, Spurlock, Hart petitioned for bankruptcy THREE times over an eleven year stretch, thus earning her recognition in the National Archives & Record Administration! Her current spouse procured honorable mention as well.

http://www2.tnmb.uscourts.gov/modules/nara/

"By virtue of the automatic stay, an individual debtor faced with a threatened foreclosure of the mortgage on his or her principal residence can prevent an immediate foreclosure by filing a chapter 13 petition. Chapter 13 then affords the debtor a right to cure defaults on long-term home mortgage debts by bringing the payments current over a reasonable period of time. The debtor is permitted to cure a default with respect to a lien on the debtor’s principal residence up until the completion of a foreclosure sale under state law. 11 U.S.C. § 1322(c)."

Unless one is a privileged member of the lucky sperm club there’s only one way to cure default. It’s called WORK, a concept the incorrigible poster child for insolvency fails to grasp. Chrishina Leann Hart’s professed employment history is as reliable as the most dubious weather forecast. What I find especially interesting is how Chrishina, the "homemaker", occupied her time when she was hard pressed to come up with what appears to be mortgage payment #3 on her new house.

Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes
28 Jun 2005 - by Hart's Wife - Yes, I do realize I change the blog design faster than my mood. And your point is? Have I mentioned I'm mental? Well I am. I spent the entire day doing as little as possible. I didn't plan it that way, but you know shit happens. ...
Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com

UGG!
4 Jul 2005 - by Hart's Wife - I'm so sick of trying to redesign this blog I could scream! I've found numerous designs I like, but, I can't get them coded correctly. Or I get them coded but the images won't show up. I've spent the last few days fighting, ...
Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com

Tomorrow, Tomorrow, I Love Ya.....
17 Jul 2005 - by Hart's Wife - Tomorrow is my appointment with my new drug dealer, YAY! I get my much needed refills! Hopefully more powerful drugs while we're at it, crossing fingers. The drugs I take now well they're ok, but they don't work for anxiety, ...
Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com

Looking Up
27 Jul 2005 - by Hart's Wife - Our central is fixed for the time being, yay! The ebay scammer had to pay us back the money he stole, yay! We've have half of the money we need before the end of the month, yay! And I may qualify for another type of disabilty, yay. ...
Hart's Wife - http://hartswife.blogspot.com

Varoom, Varoom- BeepBeep
August 09,2005 - 04:10 GMT - Want to know how lucky I am? Well once again I show up for work at my brothers at 6am. Do we start work then as usual? Nope we go back to sleep till 10:30am! WhooHoo how sweet! We really didn't do a whole lot of anything. ...
hartswife.blogspot.com/2005/08/varoom-varoom-beepbeep.html

I'ma pissing and moaning Bitch
August 18,2005 - 16:30 GMT - Yesterday was a bitch and today isn't looking much better. I had to work in the heat all day cleaning out a disgusting 40X60 building with my brother. Here's something that boggles my pee brain. Why in the hell do people spend thousands ...
hartswife.blogspot.com/2005/08/im-pissing-and-moaning-bitch.html

I'ma Cheese Eater
September 02,2005 - 06:43 GMT - I've not been blogging because I'm in a strange place right now. I haven't been doing a lot of anything really. What I wish I'd do is finish painting this house, paint our new front door, clean the yard. Start decorating for fall. ...
hartswife.blogspot.com/2005/09/im-cheese-eater.html

3:05-bk-13004: KENNETH MICHAEL HART and CHRISHINA LEANN HART
Case type: bk Chapter: 13 Asset: Yes Vol: v
Judge: George C Paine II Date filed: 10/09/2005
Plan confirmed: 11/23/2005 Date of last filing: 09/01/2007

Usenet: Samantha (Chrishina Hart) – 11/12/05 @ 3:34 pm
"Loretta wrote: I can also put together a stunning expose for your employers. I'm sure they would be fascinated with your Online Mischief."

"I find this hilarious since I work for an attorney.
Please send it soon, LowBitch! LMAO!"

Chrishina Hart, Simple URL: http://my.care2.com/theheartbitch
www.care2.com/c2c/people/profile.html?pid=483995252
Female, married
Speaks: English
Joined: Sep 21, 2006
Birthday: Jan 25
Professions: Manager/Supervisor
City: Clarksville
State/Province, Country: TN, USA 37040

In a voluntary petition for bankruptcy, dated 10/9/05, the Joint Debtors declared under penalty of perjury that Chrishina's 2005 year-to-date gross wages totaled $400.00. That amount was 100% more than Chrishina's gross earnings reported for 2003 and 2004.

It is, by and large, incomprehensible how a "low life, good for nothing, waste of space, stupid redneck" has the unmitigated gall to threaten anyone or call another person a “Fucktard”, “Fuck Nut”, or a "lowlife, good for nothing, waste of space, stupid redneck"!

Usenet: Samantha (Chrishina Hart) - 11-07-2005, 03:37 AM
"I never stalked you nor have I cared enough about you to do so, until now! You LowBitch have crossed the line. Like I said be ready for the hell that is about to come down on your head! Did you get that? Let me repeat it for you once more.......

BE READY FOR THE HELL ABOUT TO COME DOWN ON YOUR HEAD!!"

Miss Beehavin on The World Wide Web
(http://www.miss-beehavin.blogspot.com/)
To Err is Human To Err Over and Over and Blame Someone Else Shows True Fucktard Potenial. Come over and read the truth about Loretta Dillon Serrano
Author: Miss Beehavin

Usenet: Retzq May 20, 2006 @ 10.01 am
"Miss Behavin" Posting Host:
24.183.203.150 - Clarkesville, TN
Katheen" Posting Host: 24.183.203.150 - Clarkesville, TN.

There’s absolutely no wiggle room here, I know of no other person who exhibits more “True Fucktard Potential” than Chrishina Leann Hart!

"Zero I'm not the one full of hatred and stupidity. You need to turn your old boney finger around. I don't hate easily but I do hate you and Loretta, not dislike, hate bitch I hate you."
~Response From:: Shina Hart aka Chrishina Hart
Friday, November 03, 2006
---------------fuckoffanddieloretta---------------
http://shina-hart.blogspot.com/

To be continued.

I Don't Know's On Third

2007-10-19T12:18:00.000-04:00

“Sam, can you take over as ADMIN? Or would it be too much to ask (time wise)?

I feel sad that all this drama was going on for nuthin'. Who the fuck cares? It's all bullshit. Why can't we just hang out? Have a few imaginary drinks. Make each other laugh now and then in the midst of our busy days. I don't give a shit about Loretta, anymore. I haven't for a long time.

I still feel sadness over the loss of Anita and Katie, I really liked them both, but I couldn't go along with the crappy way they treated Samantha or the sneaky and deceitful deals they made with Loretta that contained zero consideration for the rest of us.”
Countess Blockquotessa 05.19.07 - 10:50 pm

I notice Blockhead fluctuates between “Countess” and “Contessa”. Apparently the “sneaky and deceitful deals” Samantha made with Loretta are absent from her radar screen. Another missing element is evidence that supports her assertions of so-called deals between Anita, Katie and Loretta.

“I don't understand all the Lola crap but I thank Madison for at least trying to keep this place open for us to talk.” ~AnonymousForever 05.20.07 - 12:44 am

“Madison, I misread your post. I apologize for slighting you. I'm all for you hosting the Pound. And a thank you from me, too, for your offering.”
Countess Blockquotessa 05.20.07 - 2:04 am

“I don't understand all the Lola crap, either. I thought our behind the scenes days were long over. Lola, Lola, Lola, why don't you try to resolve this amicably? Huh? We're all good people.” ~Countess Blockquotessa 05.20.07 - 2:06 am

Behind the scenes? Resolve exactly what amicably? Countess, Countess, Countess, whose hypothetical mission needs aborting? Huh?

“Good Lord... Shannon is mouthier than I am, sheese!
Okay, The Pound is NOT, I repeat NOT going anywhere but I will/do need a couple of Admins to help Max out. I've tried to go in but seriously, I'm like a bull in a china shop so I'm afraid to click on anything! This place is home. Even if only one person is left then it stays. But like I said, Max can't cover the joint alone and I'm worthless so if anyone has the time to spare to keep the riff raff out, which isn't much of a problem anymore, please let myself or Max know. I'll leave it up to him to decide if he wants to release an e-mail addy so if not, contact me and I'll forward the mail to him.

Thank you Maddy you sweetie! I would love to have you aboard! I know you have many friends here who trust and respect you...that's all the qualifications needed to be a Pound Admin.

Sorry about the scare there from Shannon, she's a little bit of a hothead and took my words completely out of context...actually, she wrote what she would do if it were her so pffffffttttttt. Unless you see my name at the bottom of the post, it doesn't mean crap! Okay?

I'm now going to sign off (puter is still acting up and throwing me off after 10 minutes or so) and have the drinks that you all set out for me and relax. I hope the rest of you will do the same. It's alright, your chat area isn't going anywhere. You all know I don't care if you turn this place into a pet blob, a recipe blog, a whatever blog...it's for you guys to hang out and have your say...no matter what the subject. That hasn't changed from the day The Pound opened and it won't until the last one of you turn off the lights and close the door behind you. I promise.

Let's just put the bump in the road behind us and move on. The Pound stays...bottom line! Huggles to all and a special thanks and snuggles for caring!
(wiping eyes and saying awwwwww, my precious loverlies!!!)
BG, Brutal Bru and Pork Rind aka Pig” ~Baby Girl 05.20.07 - 3:49 am

“Well, sorry to here Lola is no longer here. I hope none of our information went with her and ends up in the wrong hands. I would really hate to have to travel in my state and kick some ass. BG-Thanks for having us. We miss ya! Now get that damn computer fixed. Sam...Thanks for the explanation...being that we all post here and any admin has our info..I think we should know what the hell is going on.”
Messy 05.20.07 - 9:06 am

I notice Messy’s problem solving methods all have a violent theme.

“Excuse me ladies while I go bitch slap this girl I work with. BBL”
Anonymess 12.05.06 - 11:00 am

“Had someone called my parents...whether I was speaking to them or not...let's just say the Federal Marshals would have been called alright but for me.” ~Anonymess 02.02.07 - 11:42 am

“I can guarantee that if someone posted any information about my kids on the internet I would be taking a road trip to their house to kick their fucking ass.” ~Anonymess 02.13.07 - 8:16 pm

“I would use my real name but then if a certain person posted any info about my kids (me I wouldn’t' care) then I would have to take a road trip and would end up in jail and frankly my kids need me here.” ~Messy 05.01.07 - 7:40 am

“God forbid somone posted anything about my family (me I can handle) I would no doubt be in jail and that is no joke.” ~Messy 08.06.07 - 11:07 am

“I can guarantee you I would have had my real life been stepped into and it would have been far worse that what Madison did.”
Messy 08.14.07 - 8:57 am

“And that's one of the things I like about the Pound- that level of trust that BG's got folks running the show so to speak that she trusts - and if she ever doesn't trust it's what is for the best, she makes the changes needed.

Countessa - darling... no slight was perceived. You were just looking to make sure someone could take over instead of have the Pound dissolved. Nothing wrong with that line of thinking, hun. My blog may be all about "me, me, me..." but here it's all about what is best for the common good.”
madisonmutt 05.20.07 - 10:37 am

“Countess Blockquotessa I hope you have the best time in Hawaii! Have a safe and lovely trip you lucky heifer! Heifer is a term of endearment in the south in case you didn't know lol.

BG so thankful your keeping the joint open. I love you girl and admire your strength. Thank you Maddy for well being you. Messy you crack me up! Shannon good luck to you sweets. Toonces don't change but do be kinder to BG's leather seats lmao. Max keep these ladies safe you handsome devil you. AnonymousForever, Anonymous and Everybody I'll be thinking of you. Louise and Mabel wherever you are thank you being such good friends to me.

I'll never forget all the laughs, the friendships, sticking together through thick and thin or any of you. YOU ALL ROCK OUT LOUD! Peace Out Pound Puppies!”
Chrishina 05.20.07 - 7:35 pm

“Thank you Chrishina. But don't worry about it. I know how to have a good time, and I'm going to have a hellevaone in Hawaii! Lucky, lucky me.

Lola, Darling. Please take a personal inventory. Make necessary apologies. You don't have to make them in public. Do it behind the scenes. But let this be the last behind the scenes endeavor you find yourself involved with on the Internet.

Samantha is a dear. She really is. Embrace her. She's a shitload of fun. She'll never do anything to hurt you. I know in the past there were others who claimed foul against Samantha, but they were wrong. No one. I repeat no one was ever hurt as a result of any action coming from Samantha.

Samantha, I love you. And I love BG, and I love all the anonymessys, and all the messys, and all those who live in Madison, Wisconsin. I'm going to Hawaii!”
Countess Blockquotessa 05.20.07 - 8:25 pm

I continued to ignore the derogatory hints directed toward me even though Blockhead’s shallow indictments were over the top. By all appearances, BG wanted to put “the bump in the road behind and move on". I figured since Blockhead has trouble remembering her nic, a week in Hawaii would cure her delusions of adequacy and eliminate any notion that I owed the “shitload of fun” an apology.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What's On Second?

2007-10-12T11:50:00.000-04:00

Originally I let Shina’s 5/19 tirade slide. I surmised that sensible people would recognize her exaggerated displays are contrived and transparent. However, we’re not dealing with reasonable people at The Pound. Drum roll, please…

“I am just as shocked and saddened as y'all about BG closing the Pound. Never crossed my mind that would ever happen. Even though I won't be around I liked knowing you folks were still gathered here being friends. I'm thankful for Madison stepping up to keep it open. (((Madison))) I can't stand the thought of a trouble maker shutting down the Pound. It would seem like everything was for nothing and the bullies won after all. That would suck to no end.”

Hello? The polls were closed and Max wasn't asked to vote? What does that say about a “unanimous” policy?. What really “sucks to no end” is the histrionics!

“Since Lola can push BabyGirl to shut down the Pound then you guys deserve to know what started it. So here goes.”

“Push BG to shut down the Pound?” Why? Over email? How incredibly infantile! Does spam mail “push” BG to “shut down” her inbox? What about junk mail? Does she send a letter to the Postmaster filled with expletives and padlock her mailbox? Sheesh! Baby Girl’s afraid of Santa Clause, a dentist visit is as frightening to her as the prospect of heart surgery is to most candidates, and the goon spends “time out” in the Hummer just because he tossed her “choco milk”. Is there anything that doesn’t “push” the traumatized drama queen over the edge?

“Lola and I started talking a lot a few months ago. When some assholes opened another hate blog I went searching for answers and found them. She couldn't accept my opinions about who owned it and why and decided to become my online Nanny. When I called her on it one night in chat with Max because she was only speaking up to correct or scold me she simply left. This was the second time she felt the need to "control" me. I wasn't having it. I politely emailed her and said I couldn't handle her strong personality but I wished her the best. She emailed me back to let me know I didn't own the market on hurt feelings. Ok fine we both didn't appreciate the others actions or opinions. More reason to part ways in my opinion and left it at that so she could at least have the last word. I'm giving like that lol no really I just didn't give a shit enough to reply. I'm really honest like that.”

“Online Nanny”? Too funny! What Shina needs is a Parasitologist, a scientist who studies organisms that survive at the expense of another organism. An evaluation could be conducted in relation to Shina’s complex life cycle as a leech and the subsequent environmental degradation in her polluted Ecosystem.

Shina couldn’t find answers if they were tattooed on her arm… she invents them! An extraordinary example is the 99.9% axe Shina was eager to grind that markedly deteriorated when I wouldn’t buy into her crazed indictments.
I’m really honest like that!

“I didn't tell anyone not even BG about it. Wait I did barely mentioned it to Mabel on the phone one night but just barely. I had already made up my mind that if Lola was mentioned in email, invited to chats whatever I could be and was civil for the sake of our mutual friends and the Pound.

Lola couldn't do the same. Oh no she had to email and call everyone and talk shit about me to them. I was told even recently about it but continued to ignore her. I figured she'd get over herself soon enough. Wrong.”

This isn’t the least bit accurate. The breadth of what I said to Max, Louise, and Mabel was that I had lost trust in Shina. I did NOT elaborate and never spoke of her again until this missive was published! Max certainly didn’t need an explanation as he witnessed her comportment first hand. As far as I was concerned, Shina was a persona non grata and the distance between her and I was sufficient and welcomed!

“Months later I get a call from BG. Her computer was down and she wanted me to check her email and I did. What's in her inbox? An email from Lola. I said BG I don't feel comfortable reading this email to you. She asked why and I told her. She was like but I haven't heard from her in so long you gotta read it to me and I did.”

Shina told Mabel she had been informed about the content of the email. She didn’t say she retrieved it from BG’s inbox. It’s documented in the mashtatersaddict correspondence. Furthermore, I did NOT communicate with BG through text message or email on a personal level. Anything Francesca said to the contrary was creative reasoning on her part.

“Lola was blasting BG to hell for changing the admin passwords to the Pound. The only comment I made was "Yup that's Lola for ya" and laughed it off. You see the only admins still around for months in email or here were Max, BG and myself. All the others had emailed saying except Lola they've been busy with their personal lives etc. Since BG hadn't heard from her in a long time she assumed Lola was gone as well.”

This is patently false. Shina had no way of knowing which admins were around since she didn’t have access to StatCounter. Only Mabel informed everyone that she was busy with her personal life. In response to Mabel’s email, Louise wrote:

”It’s been an ongoing anna nicole fiasco discussion for awhile and I’m sure it’ll go to other topics once this has run it’s course. And of course, we still have BG’s babies and the Goon to talk about! It's fun just hanging with the friends on the blog. :)” - 4/3/07

A copy of that response went to GoombahsInc just two weeks before Louise was locked out.

Max, Louise and myself stayed in touch, as we always did either through IM or email. Text messages and emails from Max to BG were ignored.

“The reason the passwords were changed was one night someone posted porn on the blog and me and Max were offline. So BG calls Mabel to get the passwords since that's the only phone number of an admin she still had other than mine and Max's. Mabel said she hadn't had the passwords in a long time so you'll have to call Sam. But before she called me they spent some time chatting and catching up. Which I was thrilled to hear because they both talked about missing the other.”

Puhleeze, get real! Why would BG call a former admin who hasn’t visited The Pound since December, had no intentions of coming back, and lost the information from a computer crash? DUH! Moreover, a disconnected phone call from BG was the impetus behind Mabel’s 4/3/07 email. Not to mention the pretense of that call was purportedly to get the phone number of a person BG talks to for hours on end three times a week. The shortest distance between two points is a straight line, so why the circuitous route? Perhaps it was to clarify a malicious rumor? “While I have ya on da phone, I hear ya don’t come around cuz you’re worried about da goon”?

“When BG called me I had no idea what the passwords were off the top of my head because I only log in when nobody else is around and there's a problem which is rare.”

ROTFLMAO! How does an admin determine WHEN NOBODY ELSE IS AROUND? Snort! Where’s the time clock? Does Shina have ESP? Cause she didn’t have access to StatCounter! Shina didn’t KNOW Max had already been away on two searches before April. Shina didn’t KNOW I did the Jessica Lunsford entry. Shina didn’t KNOW Patsy was in attendance even though she responded to her remarks. Shina didn’t KNOW I fixed Toonces blockquotes. Shina didn’t KNOW I witnessed the argument she carried on with herself, (cough) I mean 'Not a Dentist'. So how did Shina KNOW when to log in? Her argument is unrealistic!

“But I found them eventually and gave them to her. She said she'd never remember those and to please change them to ****** and I did. She then asked me to email Max the new one for her because her laptop froze again and I did. It was short and sweet because I could barely keep my eyes open. But I wrote -The passwords were changed to something BG could easily remember in case something like tonight happens again and per BG please don't give these to anyone before talking to her first. What I should have added was if any of the old admins want access again we'll have to change the password because the new one is also to her email. Not that she didn't trust the others as much it was simply she didn't know them as well as she did us.”

The porn link was posted on 4/13/07. Max reported it as spam!

“Admin...For some reason I don't think that last link is safe...lol”
Messy 04.13.07 - 4:11 pm

“You are so right Messy! Sorry to take so long to catch it.”
Admin 04.13.07 - 7:17 pm

Max left on 4/15/07!

From: Max
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007
”No, BG has not replied to any of my text messages. I just sent her another one to let her know we are leaving tomorrow morning. “

The password was changed on 4/17. Louise and I waited a week for Max to return from his search only to advise us that he wasn’t allowed to share the password without unanimous approval from the remaining three admins. If those were not his explicit instructions, then take it up with him!

The spectacle was getting more humorous by the day with the linchpin being the most innovative. Baby Girl was challenged by a three syllable word that had worked like a charm for The Pound and Haloscan... “smoothsailing”! Apparently, it's a tricky one to remember. No doubt it's right up there with Stolichnaya and schadenfreude. Snort!

How many years did it take Francesca to learn how to breathe?

The password to StatCounter was different, which Shina didn’t have. She circumvented that barricade by taking an alternate route and opening a new account with StatCounter on 5/8:

8th May 2007 - 11:57:22
Tennessee, Nashville
adsl-241-139-67.bna.bellsouth.net
www.haloscan.com/members/template.php
www.haloscan.com/comments/babygirlsbrutus/test/

She could have asked Max for the password to the original account and simply modified it. Go figure!

“So because BG didn't hunt down Lola and ask her permission to change her blog's passwords first Lola is handing her ass to her via email. Not only that but Lola wanted her to know she wasn't pleased that she called Mabel in the first place when she should have just called her Interior Decorator, didn't hunt down Louise, hadn't returned Max's IMs and emails, figured out Sam was an admin (*she knew along with the rest of the admins) (because I treated D** so poorly on the blog..please) and she could only imagine what caused these actions from her.”

Let’s get one thing straight, my email was nonconfrontational and made no demands. I expressed my feelings about what was done in Standard English. All the spin Shina or BG puts on it will never diminish that basic fact!

“When BG heard that she was blown away. She was like uh? what? If I had known she was still around I would've given her the passwords damn.”

Both Shina and BG KNEW Louise was still around and to this date neither of them have contacted her!

The irony is that Francesca and Chrishina both insisted that Louise wasn't around when she was posting as Patsy. They currently allow posters to believe that I have commented anonymously at The Pound for the last four months! Why? Do they enjoy making fools out of their friends or do they simply lack the integrity to be up front about it?

Let me see if I have it straight... when you're there, your're not; and when you're not, you are? How unique!

“She and I assumed the other admins were in on this email since Lola made it her business to scold BG on their behalf (ass u me) and she was very hurt by the very thought of everyone being pissed at her over a misunderstanding. It also appears Lola was just waiting for a reason to jump BG because Lola's email was mostly lies and carefully worded bullshit.”

Never did I presume to speak on behalf of anyone but myself and to infer otherwise is grasping at straws. Furthermore, the “bullshit” was manufactured in BG’s erroneous response, which conveyed the distinct impression that Francesca was out of touch with reality big time.

“Me being me I email everyone because it was implied I had BG lock everyone out which was a far cry from the truth. First of all the idea of me trying to make BG do a damn thing is just hilarious in itself, but also I still cared deeply for all of them and wanted them to know that regardless of what some self righteous windbag said.”

Shina being Shina, she emailed Mabel forwarding copies to Max and BG. She requested that one of them send the communiqué to Louise. I don’t care how you slice it, there were numerous indications that Louise participated in the current discussions at The Pound. In the event Francesca was in a ‘Dirty Martini’ daze, Shina could have refreshed her memory because it’s all there in black and white! Locking out Louise was not an oversight by any stretch of the imagination. It was intentional and while I think it’s a damn shame, everyone else seems to ignore that salient point! It’s a glaring indication of how “deeply” Shina cared for Louise!

“After we heard back from the others (minus one) saying huh? we love you too and have no problems and are just busy with life we then realized Lola was just trying to stir the pot.”

Excuse me? What others? The lone individual that responded was Mabel who by virtue of her own admission was pissed at being dragged into something that had absolutely nothing to do with her. DUH! Who’s the pot stirrer?

“The more she thought about someone else telling her how to run her own blog and demanding answers from her the more it pissed her off and she left Lola know it. Especially since Lola was so outraged that some others done this very thing to BG before BG told them to hit the door.”

Give it up already!
” It's your blog and you have every right to run it as you see fit, but I know of no-one associated with the site that deserves such shabby treatment, which is contrary to what you preach on the board.” -5/1/07
That's what I wrote. Read much?

“Lola responds with some of the craziest bullshit I've heard in a long time. She went so far as to copy and paste a convo between an Admin and a poster here to prove she was still around. But there's a huge problem with this line of bull she's selling because I WAS THE ADMIN that night she was claiming to be and can prove it with IPs :roll eyes: I also went back further and realized Lola told many lies in that email. She wasn't commenting or stopping by everyday like she threw in BG's face, hell she made one comment in about three months! I told BG this and she told Lola to go fuck herself BG style.”

The “huge problem” is actually Shina’s hypothesis. If two or more admins fix mistakes, how does one know which admin is being addressed by a poster?

”I told BG this…” is an admission that Shina deliberately convinced BG that I was AWOL! At the risk of sounding redundant, Shina had NO WAY of determining if I was there! How does Shina account for a hundred visitors to The Pound on a day when there are eight comments, hmmm? How does Shina account for the fact that some of those visitors NEVER comment? Shina couldn’t account for any of the things she spewed; either because she was incapable of ascertaining the facts or she intentionally twisted them to suit her program!

“I haven't heard anything else and there's probably more to the story. After hearing back from most everyone else that all is good as gravy I was done giving Lola the attention she was seeking. Also I don't ask about online drama anymore because honestly I'm over the Katie's, Anita's, Loretta's and Lola's on the Internet, seriously fucking over them.”

Shina knows full well there’s a lot more to the story. Again, exactly who is “most everyone else”? The only person Shina heard back from had flown the coop five months prior! It doesn’t get any funnier when you think about it. The theory that receiving a response from a disinterested party has any significant meaning is as pointless as Shina saying she heard back from the Pope that “all is good as gravy”!

Shina isn’t “over” any of the individuals referenced above. The affirmation of her spiteful, abnormal, obsessive conduct is documented in her vindictive track record. Bless her venal, self-absorbed heart!

“I maybe out of line for putting this out here, I'm sure some will say so, but you know what I was never afforded privacy when people had their fill of my crap so Lola ain't getting common courtesy from me either. This way at least you'll understand the comments Shannon keeps posting per BG. Also people who are great at manipulating others could take this opportunity (especially if the doors close) to sell a line of bull since nobody has stated the truth and only hinted at the problem. So yeah there ya go.”

Shina’s favorite role of victim cuts to the heart of the matter. She deflected blame onto unknown entities that have no connection to her pernicious campaign against me. It’s a quintessential formula that Loretta employs with abandon. Shina’s reference to the new 'Shannon' poster reveals that she’s familiar with who is posting under that nic. It’s a depraved pantomime that’s being played out to a captive albeit shallow audience.

“I'm not suggesting we fight out our opinions because I'm sure many here are friends with Lola and that's cool. I'm just telling it like it happened. If you're offended by me well I'm just sorry.”

”Malice is of the boomerang character, and is apt to turn upon the projector.” ~William Makepeace Thackeray

“It leaves me wondering if something else has happened or if BG has just had her fill of control freaks with an agenda.

Either way thank you BabyGirl for putting up with everything you have for the Pound. You're an awesome friend and I love ya. Never forget I'm only a phone call away.

Maddy keep in mind this is only one ounce of the tons of bullshit BG has dealt with being the Pound owner. You may want to take that into consideration, just sayin' because I care.

I need a drink and a bottle of Advil.

I was emailed the passwords out of the blue one day. The admins had went to BG and asked for me to have access as a sign of trust. I was very appreciatative of their gesture. Even still I never signed up to be an Admin.”

Too funny! I haven’t a clue which admins “had went to BG” but it’s a disgrace that Shina habitually dishonors any “sign of trust” she’s been afforded.

“Should I delete again? Maybe but I'm not gonna.”
Chrishina 05.19.07 - 5:58 pm

Clap, Clap, Clap.

”The venom that chills and curdles the warm current of life in man is secreted only in creeping and cold-blooded creatures; and the inveterate malignity that never forgets or forgives is found only in base and ignoble natures, whose aims are selfish, whose means are indirect, cowardly, and treacherous.”
~George Stillman Hillard

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'm pleased to announce that Patsy has a NEW ENTRY!

http://patsyspalace.blogspot.com/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"A friend is someone who is there for you when he'd rather be somewhere else."

- Author Unknown

Who's On First?

2007-10-10T11:00:00.000-04:00

“Even when the truth isn't the most stellar event in our life - it's our truth. And unless we live our truth, which can be facing demons, admitting wrong, taking responsibility and moving forward in addition to just being more positive, we can never be that "best Madison" or "best Contessa" or "best BG"... etc.

And that's the great thing about The Pound - we can share our lives as we see fit, and relate to one another with whatever level of anonymity we choose. But just once in awhile, if we know something more about our fellow posters (and no, I'm not advocating sharing complete life stories) then maybe we'll have a different perspective about what they post or why they post and it will give a new dimension to our understanding.”
madisonmutt 05.05.07 - 8:30 am

“You're traveling through another dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and timeless as infinity. It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. The highway leads to the shadowy tip of reality. You're on a through route to the land of the different, the bizarre, the unexplainable ...
It is an area we call the Twilight Zone.”

“So I start saying "oh yeah real mature...throw things...that will take care of everything". Next goes the phone across the room and his wife is begging me to stop....lol....ME! Not the crazy guy screaming F bombs and throwing wine. Now that was one good family dinner.” ~Messy 05.05.07 - 9:31 am

Anyone else suspect the FBI cuts power to the ranch in the middle of Messy’s family reunions?

“Others who lack insight may use your truth against you in a manner that lacks compassion and respect for you for the purpose of furthering their own agenda. And after my experience with the way they do things -------> I no longer feel safe on the Internet. I know Sammy has had to lock down her blog a few times, I'm not exactly sure why, I assumed it was from unsavory encounters with nasty people. But you're not me. I think you may be a lot tougher than I am, and much better skilled in the art of telling nasty people to fuck off. So you just say whatever you want to say. I may worry a little for your safety, but it's more important that you feel free to express yourself as you see fit. And I'll be there at your side to give my kind of Hell to anyone who tries to hurt you.”
Contessa Blockquotessa 05.05.07 - 10:50 am

There you have it, folks! “The art of telling nasty people to fuck off” is an admirable quality according to the Contessa. It doesn’t matter whether Sammy deviates from all acceptable social norms and ends up being dead wrong. What’s important is that Sammy feel free to express her opinions as she sees fit. So... other than her potty mouth, what makes Sammy any different from Loretta?

May I suggest a more suitable nic for this poster?

Contessa Blockhead fits like a glove in my opinion.

No offense!

ADDENDUM 10/22/07: I have recently been informed that Blockhead insists I purposely took this quote out of context and twisted it to appear that she was addressing Sammy rather than Madisonmutt. Whoever Blockhead was speaking to is immaterial in relation to what she was illustrating. The fact is, if she really believes that telling nasty people to “fuck off” is an admirable trait then she should idolize Loretta

Here’s a woman who admits she doesn’t feel safe on the Internet due to her personal experience with the way they do things at misfitting. Unless I’m missing something, the biggest complaint about Loretta is the way she treats people. If that’s the case, why does a member of The Pound get the seal of approval for doing what Loretta is criticized for sans the profanity? Why is Blockhead concerned for madisonmutt’s safety and not anyone else that’s “better skilled in the art of telling nasty people to fuck off”? Furthermore, how is one's "safety" related to that particular "skill"? Does Blockhead live on a two-way street or is it one-way where she simply changes the sign to point in whichever direction she’s heading?

Therapy is expensive. Popping bubble wrap is cheap. Blockhead should choose.

I suggest the countess/contessa pick a cheese to go with her whine as well!

“I will mention that the part that pissed me off about -----> posting about my personal life wasn't that the facts weren't true, it was that they provided a concrete mechanism for any other psycho that wanted to find my kids.”
madisonmutt 05.05.07 - 11:26 am

“Madison--Yeah, it really did suck, big time, that Loretta plowed through the boundaries into the lives of your children. She still hasn't taken responsibility or apologized, has she? Fucking bitch that she is.”
Contessa Blockquotessa 05.05.07 - 12:10 pm

Psst, Blockhead! Speaking of boundaries, do the words… ”Usenet” and "I know it was wrong, but I did it anyway." ring a bell?

“I dig you! Contessa, I don't blame you for feeling uncomfortable about sharing personal stuff. I, too, am a little on edge to do so.”
Toonces the Driving Cat 05.05.07 - 11:39 pm

“Me, I have to fill out a job application. I really want this promotion. I have to spend all day perfecting my bullshit. But at least I get to sit on my ass.”
Contessa Blockquotessa 05.06.07 - 12:04 pm

I think Blockhead has her “bullshit" down to a perfect science!

“Francesca's computer is dead again but she ask me to say Hello to all and send a big love ya to everyone. She ask that I not sign my name because of a certain stalker and she always gives me the best advice so I won't. Sammy, she loves and misses you. Gene, she loves and misses you. Mabel, Thank you again for the number and loves and misses you too. Sorry she had to call you again. Louise, Loves and misses you. Hopes Prada and family are doing well.

The rest of you who have found a home here, she wants all of you to know you are safe and will stay that way.

Lola, what you did was so uncool I can't even comment on it. She was your friend and that meant a lot to her. You are the one who lost on this one. She cares deeply for all of you and this was not her fight but she went in and took the lead so Loretta couldn't touch any you that were being bashed.

I don't know when she will be able to get back online but my hubby X will try tomorrow to fix it, if not she'll have to buy a new laptop but she sends her love and wants you all to know you are in good hands.
From BG
Nite Edited By Siteowner”
Shannon 05.08.07 - 2:38 am

How droll! The first-time visitor is actually Francesca who is still wringing her hands and beating her chest over, “I can only express my disappointment!” I find the “friend” reference a bit maudlin inasmuch as BG and I didn’t correspond on a one-to-one basis.

Speaking of friends, why isn't anyone appalled by Goombah's locking out Louise?

” Louise my mentor who I adore” -BG 2/13/07

”I knew Mabel had left, I thought Louise was with Prada and thought you were enjoying real life and just peeking in occasionally to say Hi.” - BG 5/1/07

”Louise, Loves and misses you. Hopes Prada and family are doing well." –BG/Shannon 5/8/07

You might be “in good hands” with Allstate, but that guarantee is disputable at The Pound!

” Baby Prada is doing fine Darling. We've been told she's a fast developer and she's showing it. She's a BG fashionista already.” ~ Patsy 11.11.06 - 2:24 am

“Anonymess Darling, the only shopping I've done so far is for Baby Prada. Everyone else.. nada.” ~Patsy 12.07.06 - 2:38 pm

Oops! Another Baby Girl blunder. DUH! Who’s in charge of security? The Keystone Cops? Great job covering Louise's back, Fran Fran!

I bet Louise, BG’s reputed mentor, has a warm fuzzy feeling knowing her personal safety was consigned to such capable hands!

“BG won't be on for a few more days. She misses you all. Her text cell messages won't and haven't came thought because her provider Cingular changed to AT&T so they probably didn't carry over the cell set-up. Shina and Max you have mail.
Night pound.Edited By Siteowner” ~Shannon 05.13.07 - 1:05 am

That’s Baby Girl notifying Max that she’s forwarding my email from two weeks ago!

“What's going on with Lola? Could somebody please explain?”
Anonymous 05.13.07 - 1:49 am

“It was a misunderstanding and that's all. BG wishes to move on from the subject. Thanks.” ~Admin / Shina 05.13.07 - 2:02 am

BG move on? In your dreams, cupcake!

“Do not edit"

"The pound will be closing soon unless one of you want to take it over, free of charge. BG doesn't know how to edit and administrate so if anyone is interested please contact Goombahs Inc@AOL.com Only known members will be eligible. from BG

Thank you Lola, BG sends you all the best for being the cowardly, back stabber, Loretta clone that you are and for killing the pound. You got what you wanted so are you happy now? BG will be online after 11 pm on Saturday the 19th if anyone is interested in taking the reins. Thank you. ~Shannon~
~Shannon~ 05.19.07 - 6:09 am

Snort! A new and improved Shannon as indicated by the altered signature along with other factors. I suspect the author is most likely Shina. This preposterous farce is probably an introduction to her forthcoming performance. And guess who took the bait... hook, line, and sinker?

“I am deeply saddened by this news. I don't know who Lola is, I thought she was a friend. Maybe we could all move over to Shina's or Maddie's? If that would make things easier for BG?” ~Countess Blockquotessa 05.19.07 - 3:14 pm

“Contessa... I'm flattered that you would suggest my place as a hang out. But at the same time, it just seems very ummmm... inappropriate given how many of us met.

After much thought, however, rather than email BG in private, I will state publically [sic] that I'm willing to find out what is needed to keep the Pound open as a "hang out" joint. This gives all you anonys and non-commenting readers a chance to say ok or hell no.

The basic premise of the Pound has always been our right to privacy and I would not want anyone to think that was being handed over behind closed doors.”
Madisonmutt 05.19.07 - 4:11 pm

No surprises there.

Pffffft!

Got Mail?

2007-09-28T10:14:00.001-04:00

There really isn’t much to say about Baby Girls’s second email other than it appears to have been written by an enraged, awkward, unsophisticated juvenile. The type that integrates the “F” word into every sentence because it makes them feel like a big shot, which compensates for the fact they don’t have the ability to expand their vocabulary beyond primitive words. The “F” word can also be flamboyant at times and may be cathartic to Baby Girl, but it truly underscores chronic ignorance when used as a verb, noun, pronoun, adjective, adverb, preposition, and interjection in the same communiqué.

Having witnessed Francesca talk smack on several occasions, I considered it part of her theatrical repertoire. I had no idea whether or not her “dumb act” was, in fact, just an act. There were times I noticed she was reflective in her thoughts and comments as well. I recall an instance when she wrote about how much she missed her mom.

Any admin will tell you that chaos reigned every time BG participated in chat. She didn’t seem to know who was who and addressed folks by the wrong nics. I had to constantly scroll back in an effort to interpret what and whom she was talking about. When you have more than three people typing, words can easily be taken out of context. I thought that might have been a possibility when BG brought the “goon thing” up in her vague missive so I wrote to Max asking if he had any idea what she was referring to.

Subject: Good morning!
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 14:40:20

“I realize that you have other pressing matters now, but there's a dark cloud in the horizon that I would like to speak to you about... namely, Baby Girl.

Just to be sure that you and I are on the same page, let me say that when something bothers me I prefer to face it head-on in order to gain a clear understanding of the circumstances involved. It's the only way I am able to analyze the situation and arrive at a conclusion. I do not beat around the bush, I do not make unsubstantiated accusations, and I refuse to subscribe to vicious gossip. I think you know this. Having said that, I recognize that I am not perfect and make my share of unintentional mistakes just like every other human being. However, given the opportunity, I am more than willing to claim ownership of those errors and rectify them when necessary in order to clear the air.

I know you can attest to the fact that I have not elaborated on any of the details concerning my feelings toward Shina, other than informing you that I had lost trust in her. Since the fallout with Shina, I have sensed the "deep freeze" from Baby Girl. Whether it was real or imagined remained to be seen. I responded to Baby Girl's email laying my cards out on the table hoping to reveal a reason for her attitude toward me. What I got back was a blockbuster! The hostility is palpable in each and every word, which validates any suspicions I had about the "deep freeze". There are two references in her staggering response that I find unsettling aside from all the "Fuck you" declarations.

1. "First Miss Know it all...do you have a clue how many "private" chats I was not included in but were forwarded to me the next day that was to say the least, unflattering to me...and yes, you were right in there. I believe one of your fav's was rather the Goon thing was real among other choice words (again, none of your business!)....remember? I saw them all and I sat back and let it go. I thought so what, I'm not her kind of person, no biggie, her choice. Two way street indeed, find anything or anyone I ever spoke a bad word about you to...I will pay you if you can find one! This is about Sam and you're taking me into it and we both know it...how fucking cut and dried is that for you?"

2. "Surrrrrrrrree...I'll wait and see how long it takes you to go all Loretta on my ass...I'm ųure you've already sent out the "BG is bad news" news letter. Man, did I misjudge you! But, I was warned so my bad. Whatever! Shit happens, right? Go for it, have fun and enjoy!

I don't think I need to tell you how absolutely shocked I am to read this. It's obvious to me that her bitterness did not happen overnight. It had to be brewing for some time and I'm at a loss to understand why. I have no clue as to who warned her about me nor what she was warned about. To the best of my recollection, I have never participated in a conversation that was unflattering to Baby Girl nor have I said anything about her in a chat session that I wouldn't repeat to her face. I most assuredly do not know anything about "the goon" to even mention him in passing. Those chat transcripts will show that I held Baby Girl in high regard in spite of her craziness, which I stated in IM.

I will gladly forward the latest emails for your review, but first I ask that you search your memory for anything that I may have said in chat that could possibly be misconstrued. While I don't expect you to betray a confidence I would like to know if you can shed some light on this.

I always thought Baby Girl was the type of person to confront someone she had issues with. She had me fooled in that respect. Speaking of respect, I lost all that I had for her due to the most recent exchange. I do not buy "That's just Baby Girl" anymore.

I'm probably more disappointed in myself for being such a poor judge of character, which is why I request your help in making sense of it all. Sorry to bother you while you are busy, but perhaps you could give it some thought while you're there.”

Neither Max nor Louise recalled anything I said that could be considered discourteous toward Baby Girl. Nothing, Nada, Zilch, Zip! I challenge Francesca to bring on the purported “unflattering” “goon thing” transcript!

As far as I was concerned, Francesca’s preposterous diatribe was the end of it. I certainly wasn’t prepared for the dramatic production that would ensue when Chrishina Leann Hart involved herself, yet again, in something that wasn’t directed at her.

From: mashtatersaddict@aol.com
Subject: Hi Folks it's Sam

"Dear JA, Mr. G and Patsy,
(please copy this to Patsy I can't find her email address..thanks!)

I have been informed of an issue between the admins and BG. Normally I wouldn't feel the need to email you about such but it's been implied I have a misguided grudge. Since I have no idea who or what this "misguided grudge" is suppose to be and your names were mentioned in the same breath I'm writing this email to all of you with the exception of Lola. I won't email her. Why will be explained below.

First of all I heart you people. I understand our lives have changed and in some cases that changed our commutationtechniques as well. Even if we don't email or call like we used to doesn't mean I stopped caring about you. In my heart over the years we've formed bonds that I cherish. But I should have realized something was up when I got that out of the blue email from JA explaining herself. I thought something was up then but when I heard nothing else of it I let it go after I replied and wished her well. She knows I love her and I know she loves me regardless of where or what she's doing in her life now.

So today when I was informed Lola is highly pissed at BG for changing the passwords at the pound, not notifying her of whom she wished to contact first about the pound, or anything else she has done without her guidance at the pound pretty much I was a little taken aback. Before I go there let me say this....As you may or may not know I couldn't handle Lola's strong personality to say the least and I peacefully ended our friendship some months ago. That didn't mean I was mad at her, wished her ill will, or even spoke poorly of her to any of you. Actually I didn't even tell BG about Lola and I until after BG's first email from her. When I said yup that's Lola for ya and then explained my statement. I was just done trying to make a friendship work that just wouldn't plain and simple. I really liked Lola's principles and still admire that in her. But when she makes assumptions about me having a misguided grudge and implies I had a hand in some changes that were made it reminds me why I can't be friends with her. So let me set the record straight please.

You all know and have known that I had the passwords to the Pound for a few months now right? I don't sign in unless something is broke and nobody else is around. Also did you know I didn't want or need the passwords? Not once did I ask for them but when I was told keep these safe for a rainy day I did just that. I appreciated the fact that everybody trusted me again and realized giving me the passwords was a kind gesture of your trust in me. Grateful was an understatement of how that felt. But I had no idea some people were still wondering (or figuring out) if I had access or not....then again some folks haven't been around as much so I guess it's possible.

Even having the passwords at the pound I was still not a full fledge admin so to speak. I was a back up admin and that was and still is just fine with me. I don't make the decisons at the pound that has always been up to you guys and BG. So why now is it being implied I helped make the descions to lock Patsy, JA and Lola out of the pound? Because I had nothing to do with that decison. I was asked to change the passwords and email Mr. G the new ones asking him not to share them unless talking to BG first. Since it's her blog and it was 3 o'clock in the morning I didn't ask questions and assumed she would if she wanted to explain later. Later she told me something was on the blog she wanted deleted and Mr G was out of town and nobody else was around anymore so she wanted access for such occasions but it had to be an easy for her to remember password. She also said there was no sense in emailing the new ones to JA, Lola or Patsy because you guys were gone now. Since you folks were so guite (several times I came on and blockquotes weren't fixed hours later, 800 comments no new entry etc) BG wasn't alone in thinking nobody was around anymore. I knew JA was gone, that Patsy was not feeling well (hope you're feeling better)....so to me it made sense too. Since JA left the passwords were changed and she wasn't emailed the new ones and I don't recall a blasting email to BG from her but she is Just Amazing. I do know for a fact BG didn't do it intentionally to hurt anybody. I do sympathize if you were all still around daily and one day out of the blue found yourself locked out with no explanation. I can't imagine how that must of felt. But to assume it was done out of spite or what have you and to act on that assumption so hatefully was uncalled for in my opinion. Still fact of the matter is I had nothing to do with locking or changing anything and I wanted you all to know that in case you were told different, not that you were just if you were.

Also yes I did put Denise's name on her posts. Anyone is free to sympathize with that whack o' all they want but the bitch implied Mr G and myself were conning BG out of money so yeah I took it personally and acted accordingly. Her first post was nice enough unless like me you think adding BG's real life friends names was uncalled for on her part. (please God say I kept proof of that sure as the world I'll need it) You've all dealt with Denise in the middle of the night and since I'm not as tactful (reason I'm a backup admin) as you I didn't act in the best interest of the pound. So I apologized to the Pound the next day and it was done or so I thought until Lola's email. I had no idea I was still being judged so harshly sheesh!

Truthfully I think it was a miscommutation that is snow balling its way to hell. Anyway that's my side of the story. If you think I would intentionally hurt any of you folks please think again. Maybe someone doing the shouting has a misguided grudge?

Signed,
Shina, Chrishina, Samantha, Sam, Sammy, add another insult here as you see fit

PS If you sense anger in my words it's not toward any of you. If any of you are angry with me my email is always open for us to talk. With the exceptation of Lola I have nothing to say to her...nothing."

ROFL! It’s a giant leap from "I can only express my disappointment" to "highly pissed" by any standards. I have a visual image of everyone’s eyes glazing over trying to figure out what the hell she’s talking about concerning Denise, the one who earned every dime she got dealing with BG and her crazy shit! They most likely had the same expression while attempting to decipher “commutation techniques” and “miscommutation” and "exceptation". Snort!

Anyway, Mabel replied that she wasn’t aware of any issues between Baby Girl and myself. The only problem she knew of was between Shina and me and that’s because we both had mentioned it in a passing way. Mabel told Shina it was completely unfair to get her involved in personal issues with people she cares about.

Quote:

“I also have not shared information about BG with anyone! What the hell! BG has told people what she wants them to know about her and that’s good enough for me. I am very disappointed to think that even after I have extricated myself from the mess I still get pulled into it.”

"My last phone call with BG was when she called to ask me for the passwords and I didn’t know them. She also made reference to the fact (in an earlier call) that I was not coming around because I was worried about the Goon! Geez. That is nonsense. Actually I thought maybe BG was testing me or something because I haven’t been in contact with everyone very much so I sent an email to everyone after the phone cut off and we were disconnected.”

Mabel was genuinely pissed at being ambiguously dragged into arguments between her friends, which she had nothing in the world to do with!

From: mashtatersaddict@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hi Folks it's Sam

"JA Said: Right now I simply don't have the time and it's completely unfair to get me involved in personal issues with people who I care about! Freakin' Ditto Baby!-Shina

" I knew it! I knew it! I knew it! I told BG last night on the phone that my opinion of the Lola emails are this: JA, Mr G and Patsy prolly mentioned to Lola that BG did this or did that or didn't do that but not in a hateful HOW DARE SHE kinda way and Lola took it upon herself to write BG in a HOW FUCKING DARE YOU KINDA WAY without them even knowing it. I knew in my heart of hearts that no way in hell did all of you turn on BG and appoint Lola spokeperson...no freakin' way. If that had been the case I don't think I could've handled it.

JA honest to God Lola and Patsy hadn't been around posting or emailing in so long beside an occassional Hi post at the pound I too thought they had moved on or where just busy with real life. BG even said to Lola in a post "you've been missed" and Lola didn't reply to her but she sure as hell threw it in her face that BG addressed her on the blog over a month ago to prove she was still around. Something else in those emails that are distrubing the hell out me. Lola guoted a poster talking to an admin about fixing some blockquotes and coming out to play...she implied the poster was talking to her when in fact I was the admin who fixed those blockquotes and responded to that poster! I have never known Lola to bald face lie but she did about that and Mr G or anyone else can look at the IP of that Admin and see it was in fact me that night.

Something else JA I haven't told anyone in detail why I stopped speaking to Lola. I said strong personaity to be kind because the rest of you all love Lola and I respect your friendship with her. But to hear she still has a problem with me is unnerving really. The problems if you want to call them that I nicely but firmly stated in an email to her and wished her well. When her snarky reply arrived in my inbox I read it and deleted it without replying. I didn't want to fight with her because she was a person I respected and wanted to leave it that way. Maybe that was wrong on my part? Because according to her email to BG I have a misguided grudge? Like I said in my last email I don't have a grudge and didn't even mention my descion to end the friendship with Lola to BG and BG and I speak on the phone for hours at least three times a week. If I had a grudge don't ya think BG would at least know about it? The most I've said to anyone about Lola was in these emails since her attack on BG.

All I know about the password situation is what I've already said. But I would like to add since you reminded of it JA that BG in fact said "if Lola, JA and Louise come back then they can the passwords again". It boils down to some people aren't happy unless their causing problems with and in this case FOR others.

I have no idea if Patsy even knows this mess is going down because her email isn't listed. I don't have it since I change email accounts like I do haircolor...damn. I'm just thankful to know you (JA) (and hopely Mr G and Patsy!) aren't pissed off at anyone! I heart you and if something like a misunderstanding came between us I would just die.

With love,
Shina Hart"

Puhleeze! If Shina and Francesca measure participation at The Pound by the frequency of a person’s posts, then how did they conclude Max was “still around” when his last comments prior to 4/17/07 dated back to January?

Mad Max 01.07.07 – 10:30 pm

And what about Patsy’s “occasional” remarks?

Patsy 03.19.07 - 12:41 am, Patsy 03.24.07 - 11:58 pm, Patsy 03.25.07 - 12:01 am. Patsy 03.25.07 - 12:05 am. Patsy 03.26.07 - 8:07 pm. Patsy 03.26.07 - 9:11 pm. Patsy 03.30.07 - 10:57 am. Patsy 04.19.07 - 7:25 pm. Patsy 04.19.07 - 7:26 pm. Patsy 04.19.07 - 7:27 pm

Who did Fran Fran think she was addressing when she wrote the following?

“Agree or disagree this place rocks! I love how everyone looks out for the other. Good luck with the evil dentist BG, Nice to see you back Pats! I hate that BG is scared and hurting but I like seeing some old pals back. Pats you were missed deeply. Love the picture of Jessie on the front page. (((Admin))))”
AnotherMous 03.25.07 - 1:11 am

And Shina?

“Hi Patsy! I blame Howie because he was her "husband, best friend, drug dealer and lawyer". But knowing Kris prescribed the outdated sleep med confirms my thoughts about she and Howard being partners in crime.”
Samantha 03.26.07 - 8:10 pm

Geeze Louise, this isn’t rocket science! As outlined in the "Summer Tutoring" entry on BHOS, Haloscan identifies the author of posts by their respective IP. The program doesn't tell you who visited the site. That job is left up to StatCounter, which Shina did NOT have access to. Haloscan doesn't keep track of who edits posts or even when they are revised. Admins have no way of knowing who posters are referring to when they express appreciation for fixing their mistakes. Miss "Technoodle" should know this! Furthermore, unless Baby Girl requested that someone do a new entry, she was responsible for composing them!

Borrowing a phrase from Jackie Peterson… “Even Scott isn’t that stupid!”

Mabel wrote that she hadn’t visited The Pound since December. She was under the impression the password had been changed long ago and didn’t worry about retrieving the old information when her computer crashed in January. She reiterated how she is committed to family and her work on the Cam Brown case. Mabel had completed renovations on her home office. She built the cabinets by herself and the results are awesome as confirmed by photos.
Mabel is a very busy and productive lady!

Quote:

”By the time my computer broke and I realized there was life away from the blog, I was just too happy about that to even want to go back to see my teeth knocked out again.”

“Also, BG called and mentioned something to me that made me think she thought I was afraid of the goon or something. Couldn’t be further from the truth! I really love what BG has been to all of us and the Pound. I’d hate to see anyone change.”

Note: GoombahsInc was a recipient of all the correspondence.
GoombahsInc sent copies of my email to Mabel.

Mouze in the Houze - Part 2

2007-09-20T11:30:00.001-04:00

Flashback:
“Here is what has me confused. Anita and Katie helped start this war with Loretta and no one can say that is not true. They were vicious on their board and added more than their 2 cent at the other places. Anita, you played a very big hand in what happened with Sam and if you are sincere, you will own it now. You too Katie. Why are either one of you here, knowing how BG feels about Low and her treatment of other's. I was a big fan of both of you at one time. I don't know either of you now. This is not about doing what you had to do to get your blogs taken down, it is this 180 you both are doing that has me wondering. What about all the advice you gave us Katie about never trusting Loretta. You wrote page after page on her evils and how she needed medical treatment and was dangerous. Anita and Katie, you both need to own up to the Samantha debacle and it won't hurt me to never see either of your posts again. I am sick of this whole mess. If you truly care about those of left here, you would leave and never come back. Thank You BG and Admin. Delete if you need. C.L.”
Stunned! 11.12.06 - 4:31 pm

“I am so upset and hurt that my hands are shaking. I hope Anita and Katie remember the e-mails that flew back and forth pushing Sam and then leaving her after she had done their dirty work. I was on that list and to see this talk of moving on and living better. It is such hypocritical nonsense. Baby Girl, I enjoy you very much. You seem to be a strong, caring woman so I can't for the life of me understand why you are letting this go on. Anita and Katie, you are both more hypocritical than Loretta will ever be. At least with Serrano, you knew who and what you were dealing with. I am sorry I ever knew either one of you. And I am sorry for the part I played in what was done to Samantha. At the time I thought my hands were clean because my part was reading the e-mail but now I see how dirty I really was. Samantha, please forgive me. Anita and Katie, your karma will never be clean until you both do the right thing and you both know it. That is all I have left to say Admin. Thank you.” ~Stunned! 11.12.06 - 4:51 pm

As a rookie, and not having been a member of any email group, I was taken aback by the simultaneous disputes that erupted subsequent to the demolition of the “spite” blogs. As tension permeated The Pound, allegations flew left and right, which I think most of us were incapable of assimilating. I had no idea if the accusations put forth by “Stunned” were valid, but he/she seemingly had grievances that needed to be sorted through.

I was in total shock over Eliza’s scathing response to “Stunned” and was mystified by her implication that Baby Girl had authored those comments. In turn, I offered what I considered to be a sensible proposal that could potentially resolve whatever was tormenting “Stunned”. The notion that Eliza could have been right on the money never entered my mind!

"Stunned - what you are writing is bullshit and you know it. What's wrong, you don't have Loretta to beat up? Your blog is going to fall apart because now there's nothing to talk about? Don't think I don't see through you. Only one person I know of would be saying what you are saying. I know you won't delete your own posts. Can't you just let it go? Move on? Anita and Katie aren't in bed with Loretta for crying out loud! ~Eliza 11.12.06 - 5:16 pm"

“I'm sorry to say I do not agree with you here, Eliza. I could be wrong, but it appears to me that Stunned has been hurt by Anita and/or Katie. I don't think that Stunned means to imply that either of them are in bed with Loretta. Therefore, I find your jumping to conclusions is part of the problem and not the solution.

Personally, I think Stunned's feelings are as important as anyone else’s and so I would suggest a form of arbitration in an attempt to resolve the matter. That could be achieved by nominating a mediator who would be willing to work with both parties in the hopes of reaching either a peaceful solution or simply clear the air. Naturally both parties would have to approve of the intermediary who would hopefully handle the task with impartiality and utmost confidentiality. It's a suggestion I hope Stunned would approve of.” ~Mrs V 11.12.06 - 6:11 pm

“Stunned” did not acknowledge the suggestion, but those that had been discredited responded with grace under pressure.

“Stunned, I have offered, asked and cajoled anyone who has an issue with me to write me an email to resolve it. At this point only one person has taken me up on that offer.” ~Anita Richm*n 11.12.06 - 6:25 pm

“just want to say that I'm not hurt or upset by Stunned's feelings. What occured here happened very fast and unexpectedly, at least to me. But that is how things sometimes shift for me...in a very quick and unexpected manner. In many areas of my life. It is hard to comprehend if one doesn't experience change that way. I have no grievance with Samantha now and have not for some time. Samantha knows this and if anyone else has issues with me that they need to resolve I am totally open to that.” ~katiecool*dy 11.12.06 - 6:30 pm

Fox cartoon time...

“Frankly, I'm stunned at this whole thing...as are more than a few of us. Take that anyway you want. I'm not going to fight my own crowd. Again, this is The Pound. Stunned had as much right to speak as anyone else. As far as I can tell, no one was banned today (we have Max tied down) and everyone that wanted to comment has. If I sound a bit cranky, it's because this shit is cutting into my Fox cartoon time...sorry for being snippy. But you have to admit, this has went straight to hell in a hand basket! It's just strange at this point!” ~Baby Girl 11.12.06 - 8:19 pm

“Uhhhhhhh, okaaaaaaaay. My question was very plainly directed at "stunned" who has shown no desire to "let it go". I felt bad for her and din't want her to feel ignored in her day long rant. (okay that was a lie, but still.......) I find it curious BG, that ALL the Bullshit flyin' around this joint today and you feel it's necessary to call me out? I have no intentions of apologising to "stunned" or bad mouthing Sam-that gig is so over. Never had no hate on for Sam. Nope. Never. Meant no disrespect to you at all BG, as I was not speaking to you. Are you still taking questions?” ~It's me, Closet 11.12.06 - 8:30 pm

“This is what I replied to Eliza”

”Your blog is going to fall apart because now there's nothing to talk about? Don't think I don't see through you. Only one person I know of would be saying what you are saying. I know you won't delete your own posts.”

“This is MY blog and rather it get's one hit a day or a hundred, I'm fine with it. What are you seeing through considering only MY admins can delete posts...I am dingy Eliza but I'm not stupid. Either you think I or my crew are someone else...we are who we are. And as far as I know, all our ankles are fine. If someone is injured, that's just wrong.” ~Baby Girl 11.12.06 - 8:42 pm

I believe I was the last participant to enter chat later that night. Upon my arrival I was greeted with, “Baby Girl is stunned.” To which I queried, “Stunned about what?” That's when I learned Baby Girl was actually "Stunned", the poster.
The joke was on me!

Eliza knew exactly what she was talking about. I couldn't think of anything dignified to say other than BG sure had me fooled. I didn't question why BG did it even though I felt it was an absurd gesture. In retrospect, I would emphasize that if things were going “straight to hell in a hand basket” it was due in large part to the blog owner’s insidious charade.

Frick and Frack had their own opinions:

“I think if people can't respect the one rule this joint has not to eat our own, then it's high time these troublemakers are called out on the rug. Maybe then people will understand where others are coming from with their replies to the attacks.” ~DJ Sooner (Shina) 11.13.06 - 1:29 am

“I'm so sick of the two faced bullshit I could puke! Either way is okay with me.”
Baby Girl 11.13.06 - 1:52 am

All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts… ~William Shakespeare

And so The Pound stage was set with tacit approval of casting aspersions on anyone considered a troublemaker without substantiation, in typical Loretta fashion, under the direction of Francesca aka “Stunned” Baby Girl.

Reactions were diverse, but there was one bright spot in the midst of the sludge...

“I was once one of Loretta's strongest supporters, but all for naught. I've learned my lesson since. I harbour no hard feelings for anyone here nor at misfits. It has been a comfort not to be a part of any of this for so long. I wish all involved, here and misfits, good luck, good health and positive thoughts.”
Ponder 11.13.06 - 2:57 pm

madisonmutt had her own unique observations...

“To be fair, there are several different "email groups" if you want to call it that. There certainly are posters here that I exchange email with because we've connected on some level or another. What makes it wrong to have a group of folks who share emails? Especially if you're one of those anonys who didn't want your contact info out there - that doesn't mean anyone excluded you, just that you didn't get the memo. That is a dead argument as far as I'm concerned. It's not like anyone here joined the club with the promise of receiving every email exchanged by anyone in the group. That's what friends do. They exchange emails. And that's what people working together to run a board (or a series or boards) do. They exchange email.

How about picking something really worthy of being pissed off about? Like the millions of dollars squandered on stupid research every year or the fact that Scott Peterson will still be breathing this Christmas or ... ya know??”
madisonmutt 11.14.06 - 12:34 pm

”dollars squandered on stupid research”?

”U.S. Research Funding Continues to Flatten
as U.S. Health Costs Climb”
http://tinyurl.com/yuwgpm

"The article specifically mentioned that the 5.5 cents spent on research in 2006 for every dollar spent on health care in 2006 was the smallest ratio of money spent on research since 2001."

“I finally realized what it means to eat our own. It means insulting, humiliating, or embarrassing a fellow mutt by making alleged disputes public. When one puts their individual desire or need for justice at a greater level of importance than the overall good of the group they are eating their own. I wish you all would take this private.” ~Anonymous 11.14.06 - 2:31 pm

“Goodbye everyone. I'm sorry to say this won't my second home anymore. Like some others, I don't think I'll ever find peace in this kind of contentious environment. Some evidently have deep hurts that I know nothing about. What I DO know is that I won't be part of the anger anymore. Heck, if I want negativity, I'll go visit my mother-in-law. Take care. I hope you can find peace and reconciliation with each other. Oh, and thanks for the many laughs!!”
Ntegrity 11.14.06 - 3:15 pm

Apparently Shina ’s negativity trumps that of Ntegrity’s mother-in-law, considering Ntegrity is a current cheerleader at The Pound.

“This is what I am not understanding. For a year I have read on these Blogs that everyone wanted Loretta to take responsibility and admit her actions. To not evade them, lie about them or minimize them. Everyone wanted Loretta to admit the truth. That was the justification for the blogs, to point out her lies and actions.

Shouldnt those who made those demands be willing to deliver what they expected of Loretta? Who had a right to demand from Loretta what they are not or were not willing to deliver themselves? People should not have to be "outed" IMO. They should infact out themselves of they crossed the line.”
lurkylu 11.14.06 - 10:45 pm

“You're damn right! Or else they really are hypocritical mutts.”
Anonymous 11.14.06 - 10:47 pm

Mouze in the Houze - Part 1

2007-09-16T23:00:00.001-04:00

Think she's gone or changed her ways? No! She's stillaround, but at the Cam Brown site. A few choice words from the ultimate Fucktard.

From Loretta
"I don't know what Pxxxx Bxxxx looks like, nor do I really care. I do, however, know enough about little girls (having raised 3 of my own) to know that a woman who was childless for 47, 48 years and inherits a step-daughter at age 3 with a man who was a reluctant parent (at best) and a negligent moron (to be kind), had less than a snowball's chance in hell of gaining "full legal custody" of that child.

Her comments toward Sxxxx were spiteful, ignorant and bitter. She probably never reconciled the idea that her young stud husband (cough) had to have continuous contact with a former lover that looked like Sxxxx.

I'd like to tell Pxxxx and all the rest of the pathologically jealous mutts out there - Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. Hahahaha

The fact is, even if Pxxxx looked like a young Bo Derek, her actions toward Sxxxx and others involved in this case (never mind her nastiness toward me -- I still wonder if her voodoo didn't backfire on her, and I sure hope she doesn't have cut-out pictures of my face next to some candles in a shoebox under her bed...yikes) is ugly enough in and of itself. Beauty is as beauty does, KK. And, thanks for the nice compliment, Ken. - 4/24/07 8:10 Pm"

"The new and improved Fucktard. What a change, heh?"
from http://cameron-brown.blogspot.com/
Mouze 04.30.07 - 2:10 am

Loretta wrote:
"...Ok, just checking to make sure there is no way I could be defined as "psychotic." Not under any known definition. However, Txx doesn't use accepted definitions for most of the words he uses. He makes them up as he goes along.

... As far as being a former drug user? Wayull...gosh...this from someone bragging about 'electric beer. Txx clearly is an alcoholic (maybe a recovering alcoholic -- I don't have the information to know). He and his friends felt it necessary to ROB people at the end of a tyre iron in order to get the funds necessary to acquire more beer. If this isn't H-Bomb class evidence of addiction, I don't know what is.

If Txx has sought help for this addiction (through AA or other similar organization) I applaud him. Any addiction is difficult to over come and live with. I doubt he has, since he would be willing to admit to it. I think that's part of recovery, admitting that you have the addiction and are living with it.

I have had such a narrow experience with mood-altering substances, it's hilarious. Yes, I abused something or other, got sober, stayed sober almost 14 years. Depending on Txx's agenda at the moment, he's either sober or a drinker. That would be considered a SUCCESS STORY, my dear. I am the poster girl for recovery. And Txx is the poster boy for failure, though not exclusively for drug abuse.

As far as the "string of failed marriages" - hey, at least I have had 4 or more guys ASK me to marry them. How many proposals have you gotten, TOAD? Men aren't allowed to marry other men in California, so I would think the number is zero. If this should change, I expect a nice ceremony at the local Unitarian Church.

...So, I bailed out. Big deal. I've had library books out longer than my marriages, so what?

Well, you had some hefty fines to pay to the library.

At least I know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em, baby. Txx can't even get to the hold 'em stage. He has freely announced that he's never had a successful relationship with a woman.

But, that 'psychotic' label won't fit, sweetie. Using Txx's definition (Anyone who doesn't agree 100% with EVERYTHING Txx claims, no matter what the actual evidence shows, is psychotic) it does. But then, in Txx's world, everyone but him is psychotic. - 4/29/07 11:57 AM " ~Mouze 04.30.07 - 2:22 am

“Isn't the Secret all about being positive and expecting good things to happen? She hasn't changed her spots at all. If she had, then her nasty comments about another person wouldn't exist. She can't help herself. She's evil.”
Anonymous 04.30.07 - 1:03 pm

"The Secret" only applies when you practice it's principles constantly. The only secret to "The Secret" is that it's a matter of doing, not just saying.”
madisonmutt 04.30.07 - 2:28 pm

“Now, before I'm accused of defending ole whatserface over ----->> I just feel like fair is fair. Ya know? As snarky and self-righteous as she can appear, what wasn't posted here was the comments she was responding to and taken in context, we'd have probably all reacted similiarly [sic]. Ole TK certainly has a way of goading folks himself.

If he can't stand up for himself, then he shouldn't be spewing some of the stuff that he is. And if he can stand up for himself, God has to be wondering what on Earth TK is trying to accomplish with the goading and digging. [note: his defense of his bro-in-law does NOT necessitate the personal bashing of any of the other commentators on the case developments]”
madisonmutt 04.30.07 - 5:44 pm

“I don't know Txx from Adam and that's fine with me. Reading that post of hers was like taking a step back in time. I prefer the present. Still this is the Pound and whomever wants to discuss Loretta per BG is more than welcome. Those of us that don't we can always talk about something else. Isn't the Pound loverly?”
Chrishina 04.30.07 - 6:29 pm

“Yes the Pound is lovely Chrishina. I for one prefer not to waste my time on the likes of her. P.S. Did I miss your name change while I was away?”
Messy 04.30.07 - 9:08 pm

“I wanted to use my real name as a reminder that my actions even online are a reflection of who I am as a person. Not that I think everybody should use their legal name of course and understand why that's not even an option for most. If you still want to call me Sam please do cause I love the nick Sam/Samantha. Just my post will be signed Chrishina.”
Chrishina Homepage 04.30.07 - 10:56 pm

“I would use my real name but then if a certain person posted any info about my kids (me I wouldn’t' care) then I would have to take a road trip and would end up in jail and frankly my kids need me here.” ~Messy 05.01.07 - 7:40 am

“I believe it would be helpful and FAIR if when reposting, accurrate [sic] accounting is provided about who is saying what. As anonymous said, Loretta and Txx seem to be attracted to each other for whatever karmic reason: that doesn't translate into Loretta starting all over again. Let them have their little cesspool fights between their CB sites. At least if one needs a dose of garbage from either side, one knows where to find it. Do we really need to copy the stuff here out of context and inaccurrately [sic] attributed? Don't worry, it's rhetorical and I'm more than prepared to accept the flying fruit just please, no bananas.... ewwww”
madisonmutt 05.01.07 - 8:41 am

“Messy, you're such a good momma! You can have all the nanners - I just didn't want folks thinking I had become a monkey simply for wanting to keep things fair. Sammy - I admire that you want to do the right thing and that by using your name online it's a reminder to you that you're accountable for what you say and do. Whatever it takes, my friend! That doesn't mean that everyone needs to do it (as you've said). It takes a lot of guts to post online these days - anonymously or not, because as well all know, it's eventually traceable if need be. That's probably what I love most about the Pound. We know that there are folks watching out behind the scenes but they allow us to maintain whatever level of anonymity we choose. That's cool, IMHO.” ~madisonmutt 05.01.07 - 11:51 am

“After reading Madison's comment about the Loretta post below I went to look for myself. Loretta did write most of that post but in more than one post, and some of it she didn't write. Why after all this time do people still feel the need to cause trouble?

Loretta did write that about us being jealous of her, and I would like to say.... If Loretta wants to live in a fantasy world believing even one Mutt could be jealous of her looks or life SNORT! (sorry I still find that hilarious) then clearly she's still not ready to face reality. As long as she's not attacking or stalking us I really can't be bothered to care

I would like to ask that if you're going to quote Loretta or anyone for that matter to please refrain from lowering yourself to an unflattering level. Not my blog of course just asking as a fellow Mutt. Even though I took a shower this morning after being at that blog I feel dirty...ewww. It was like walking into a junior high school without Germ-X. ~Chrishina 05.01.07 - 4:55 pm

SNORT! Brought to you by the champion of unflattering levels!
Speaking of Germ-X, Chrishina should gargle with it.

“Nice to know since I'm in the middle of being called a "liar", of being "full of artificial self-righteous indignation", where I have chosen "to choose to ignite passionate hostility over it", "discouraging free speech", "out of character" and what I did was not only "lousy" but left this person "disappointed" in me ... Oh and I was presented with a clarification of the word disappointment as if I were some how incapable of understanding the meaning so it had to be explained to me. But in all fairness, the disappointment in me came from my shabby treatment of said certain individual, which according to said person, "is contrary to what you preach on the board". (I swear I don't remember preaching but hey, I do drink so I may have)

Anyhoo, this will pass...I'm just more than a little stunned by the source and the reason. (Still shaking head over it) I have some errands early morn but will check in later tomorrow, Sincerely, The one and only... Lying, Lousy, disappointment to others, BG ~Mouze 05.02.07 - 12:56 am

Oops, again!

“Yes, I am also Mouze...go figure.”
Mouze 05.02.07 - 1:17 am

“Sorry Nan, I completely screwed that up but I say it's okay and thanks for the info and link...I love all the trash you send my way! If you need me, I'm up for about another hour. E-me or call.” ~Mouze 05.02.07 - 1:23 am

“…sorry for not wearing helmet while posting but I am who I am and that's functionally retarded. Huggles,Sincerely, Mouze aka BG”
Edited By Siteowner
Baby Girl 05.02.07 - 2:10 am

FYI: Haloscan remembers the information one enters in the Name:, Email:, and URL: fields. Hence, those areas of the comment section are pre-filled with the details an individual previously furnished and will post as such unless the author changes them or the cookie is deleted from the poster’s computer. One must remember to change from “D” or “Mouze” to “Baby Girl”! It’s that simple!

“Glad to find out that the mouze posting was a technically challenged copy rather than an intent to make one believe a certain person had uttered all printed. BG I've only known one lying liar yada yada (we all know the phrase) and it wasn't BG. You've kept every promise you've made to the posters here - including the opportunity to disagree and work out most "issues" publically while still allowing each person whatever level of anony they choose. Perceptions often differ from reality I guess - but this is my perception.”
madisonmutt 05.02.07 - 8:47 am

Any connection between madisonmutt’s reality and mine is purely coincidental.

“Oh Madison, there's no need for an apology. You were right, the way it was posted, it did look like all Loretta and it wasn't. It's best to question things sometimes...otherwise the shit blows up and gets out of hand. Believe me, I know because I'm in the middle of something similar at the moment and it sucks to be accused of something one hasn't done and called a liar.”
Baby Girl 05.02.07 - 9:29 pm

Fran Fran certainly has a flair for the dramatic. She’s referring to the email exchange between her and myself, which may be viewed at http://the-pound.blogspot.com/ as one of her creative entries on 7/9/07. Rather than republish the entire communication, I will highlight Baby Girl’s disordered mental aerobics in response to my stated opinion.

”I'm in the middle of something similar at the moment and it sucks to be accused of something one hasn't done and called a liar.”

Disclaimer: I did NOT call Francesca a “liar” in either email!
I stated the facts as I knew them, period!

"Mr. G was doing 99.9% of keeping an eye on the board..."

Snort! The 99.9% statistics again! Mr. G, Louise and I knew he wasn’t keeping an eye on the board at various intervals due to frequent search efforts across the US. How is it the blog mistress didn't know? According to the following article, math isn't Fran Fran's strong point either:

From: The Chronicle Herald
Halifax, Nova Scotia

"The Ralst*ns were contacted by Hopkins’ uncle who’d learned about their efforts on the Internet. The couple have a remarkable track record. They’re now responsible for locating and recovering 54 bodies over the past seven years. The two now spend anywhere between 150 and 250 days a year volunteering their services all over the continent."

“(kisses to my Mr. G man where ever he may be...winkles & smooches baby boy!)” ~Baby Girl 03.18.07 - 11:31 pm

“I would go in and fix your link but Admin prefers that I not go digging in the lab so to speak...I'm sure it will be fixed in the morn. Nite my sweet Mr. G-man, where ever you are...I miss and luv ya baby boy! (I miss Mabel, Louise, Lola, Pei Pal, Clifford's Mom and so many others also but if they are off enjoying life than I say best to ya kids!)” ~Baby Girl 03.24.07 - 11:15 pm

Hello? Fran Fran misses everybody even Mr. G while he's keeping an eye on the board 99.9% of the time. Or was this the .1% Mr. G was absent? Who fixed the link? Was it a link or a blockquote? More importantly, what planet is BG posting from? If she actually thought Mr. G was MIA, what made her say she was shocked when I mentioned the number of times Mr. G. had been away?

I honestly had/have no idea that you, Mabel and Louise were/are still around.

Oh really, then how do you explain this?

“Mabel if you can see this...you are missed!”
Baby Girl 01.25.07 - 12:31 am

“Nite Mabel, where ever you are sweet girl...my love and I miss you deeply. My darling Max who will always have my heart, Louise my mentor who I adore, Lola you brainy beautiful tramp you!, Pats and Papi, I could sit here all night and write great stuff about all of you fab people but my med's are kicking in so…”
Baby Girl 02.13.07 - 10:21 pm

It’s highly doubtful the “meds” ever kicked back out! Baby Girl doesn’t remember her ‘Sermon on the Mount’ when she had the correct spelling of “Israel”, but cited the wrong country. I reckon her memory is a bit murky regarding the call to Mabel prior to 4/3/07 when she implied the “sweet girl” wasn’t coming around because she was “worried about the goon”. The fact that Mabel reiterated the bizarre “goon” phenomenon in two emails, that BG received copies of, didn’t seem to lift the never-ending haze that surrounds Francesca.

And just when you think it couldn't possibly get any dumber…

”I had no idea Louise was even at The Pound”

Patsy 03.19.07 - 12:41 am
Patsy 03.24.07 - 11:58 pm
Patsy 03.25.07 - 12:01 am
Patsy 03.25.07 - 12:05 am
Patsy 03.26.07 - 8:07 pm
Patsy 03.26.07 - 9:11 pm
Patsy 03.30.07 - 10:57 am
Patsy 04.19.07 - 7:25 pm
Patsy 04.19.07 - 7:26 pm
Patsy 04.19.07 - 7:27 pm

Oh look, Patsy/Louise posted before and after Francesca “missed” her on 3/24!

Needless to say, when Francesca slid into “I have NEVER, not one time, ask [sic] any of you for private info from your sites, …” I had a hunch Fran Fran lost all her marbles. Little did I know her supply was critically deficient to begin with.

Three conclusions can be drawn from Baby Girl’s erroneous declarations:
a) BG was pulling my chains.
b) BG really can’t find her way out of the powder room.
c) BG was still suffering from Post-traumatic Dentist Disorder.

Whatever the reason, I was surprised to learn how uninformed and disconnected the blog mistress actually was/is.

Anyhoo, this will pass...I'm just more than a little stunned by the source and the reason. (Still shaking head over it) I have some errands early morn but will check in later tomorrow, Sincerely, The one and only... Lying, Lousy, disappointment to others,BG” ~Mouze 05.02.07 - 12:56 am

Awww! Poor Baby Girl. What a creative technique for taking it “on the chin”!

“Everyone here knows they can blast away at me if they want and not get banned or banished for it. Like I said, no matter what I say concerning certain people, I'm gonna take it on the chin. So be it.” ~Baby Girl 11.17.06 - 10:14 pm

Francesca’s citation of “more than a little stunned” brought to mind an earlier instance when Baby Girl claimed she was “stunned”.

Say What? - Part 2

2007-09-11T11:00:00.001-04:00

“I'm up if you can call... Gawd how we missed you woman!” ~Baby Girl 04.18.07 - 1:09 am

I'm beginning to think
"missed" is BG's third favorite word. Didn't Shina say she posted Steve's video to the front page as requested a few hours ago?

“What myspace blunder? I just finished tweaking your page, hope you like it. I'm not sure what time you left the message for me to call so I'm hesitate to call now. If you're still up and read this oh I don't before 3am call me or post something and I'll call you.”
Samantha 04.18.07 - 2:38 am

“I'm up...call woman, call!”
Baby Girl 04.18.07 - 2:44 am

“I've called your home and cell number and both are going to voicemail. I'm going to email you a number to call me on.” ~Samantha 04.18.07 - 3:08 am

Hello, welcome to the mental health hotline.
If you have obsessive compulsive disorder, press 1 repeatedly.

“I don't understand the you owe me attitude some people have. Don't get me wrong I believe in helping your fellow man especially family, but I don't believe in helping those that feel the world owes them something. Michael's crackhead brother broke me on just handing the shirt off my back to anyone who asked for it. Fuck anyone who demands it.” ~Samantha 04.19.07 - 1:37 am

Shina's third favorite word must be "crack" and all its derivatives.

“I know all about the "you owe me" stuff from my family. According to them, they should be living just as well as I am, at my expense of course and man are they pissed that I want no part of it...the hell and embarrassment with them never ends...the stories I could tell...sheese” ~Baby Girl 04.19.07 - 2:02 am

Note: "Treat people the way you'd like to be treated" doesn't apply to family apparently.

“Are you still up BG? Call me I emailed you last night if you are. Stalker boy is asking for it!” ~Samantha 04.19.07 - 3:55 am

If you suffer from paranoid schizophrenia, we know who you are and what you want. Stay on the line so we can trace your call.

“Oh geeze the typos. I was trying to type call me on the phone number I emailed you last night if you're still awake BG.” ~Samantha 04.19.07 - 3:57 am

If you have short term memory loss, please try your call again in a few minutes.

“Hello, anony and messy. Well actually hello to anyone who's reading.”
madisonmutt 04.22.07 - 10:37 pm

“WOW! MM you're a blast from past! So good to see you around here again! I love reading your comments because you're always so calm, cool and collected. Welcome back friend!” ~Samantha 04.23.07 - 5:31 pm

Evidently Shina is over her adverse reaction to...

“sammie - u can ignore dat email i sent you bout the T chick... problem resolved. many t'anks do. lmao... it be hard to type in accent huh? ~anony4damoment 02.07.07 - 12:05 am"

If you have amnesia, press 8 and state your name, address, phone number, date of birth, social security number, and your mother's and grandmother's maiden names.

“awww shucks, Sammy. I just calls 'em like I sees 'em.”
madisonmutt 04.23.07 - 8:25 pm

“Vergie better not make me open a can of whoop azz on her for interferring in parental relationships. Grrrrr, don't go there grandma-from-hell!”
anony4damoment 04.24.07 - 2:33 pm

“Unfortuately, anony4da, whoop azz doesn't work in grandmas from hell.”
madisonmutt 04.24.07 - 3:14 pm

That’s madisonmutt talking to herself in case you didn’t notice!

If you have multiple personality syndrome, press 3, 4, 5, and 6.

“MadisonMutt to see you posting again is just AWESOME! I can't get over it. I've always respected you for as I said your ease at being calm cool and collected.

For anybody that wants to read, my blog is re-opened. I doubt you'll recognize it or me, lots of good things going on in my life. http://chrishina.blogspot.com I am uninstalling the site meters on it because I never login to those anyway but mainly because people deserve to surf the web with privacy.”
Chrishina 04.26.07 - 6:32 pm

If you are delusional, press 7 and your call will be transfered to the mothership.

“That woman over there and I will never never never never be friends. If that's negative to some oh well, but to me it's very positive. I have no ill feelings toward her or anybody anymore but that doesn't mean I'll be having tea with them at any point in my life either.” ~Chrishina 04.27.07 - 7:52 pm

If you have bi-polar disorder, please leave a message after the beep. Or before the beep. Or after the beep. Please wait for the beep.

“Oh and yeah Chrishina is Sammy. Legal name Chrishina, real life nick Shina online nick Samantha, Sam and Sammy. Even I get confused.”
Chrishina 04.27.07 - 7:54 pm

“How do you like my new name? I used to go by Anonymous. Maybe I should use Stacy Shalmers. That was the name I wish I given at birth about twenty years ago. Stacy Shalmers sounds kind of porn starish. I think Blockquote fits me, now.”
Blockquote 04.28.07 - 12:16 am

“I think I really like Blockquote. Or maybe Bloquotessa Or maybe Ms Block. Or how about Queen Blockquote? Better yet, Contessa Blockquotessa?”
Contessa Blockqotessa 04.28.07 - 1:56 am

"Dear Admin, could you please correct my mistake?"
Contessa Blockquotessa 04.28.07 - 2:07 am

“Contessa Blockquotessa your block was fixed and no you're not the only one laughing at your jokes.” ~Admin 04.28.07 - 3:17 am

If you are co-dependent, please ask someone to press 2 for you.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I don't recall the exact day Max relayed the message to Louise and me in chat. He said he had received an email from Shina informing him that the password to Haloscan had been changed, not because there was a breach in confidence, but by virtue of the fact BG wanted something easier to remember. That struck me as odd because I couldn’t imagine anything more uncomplicated than what was already in place. In addition, Max was advised that any future admins would require unanimous approval from Baby Girl, Shina, and himself. The second part of the dictum came as a complete surprise as it confirmed the decision was calculated and failure to notify Louise or myself was not an oversight. Clearly, Max was relegated to do the dirty work.

The three of us were at a loss to understand what may have influenced the new rules. To my knowledge neither Louise nor myself ever had an angry word with BG, therefore we concluded that Shina’s involvement played a big part. The fact that Shina was ticked at me would account for my curt dismissal, but it didn’t explain why Louise was ostracized. It’s a point of contention that for all intents and purposes remains a mystery.

Since I was the new kid on the block, I didn’t know Francesca as well as the other admins. In fact, my appointment was impromptu. One day, out of the blue, BG christened me “Lola” announcing my association as a member of “the crew”. I NEVER requested the designation, I didn’t choose the name, and I avoided the inner workings of Haloscan for a stretch out of fear I might mess things up. At the time it didn’t matter because there were enough admins to handle the job. In fact, it was Mabel who gave me a quick tutorial on how to utilize the basic functions of Haloscan before she left for vacation.

On the other hand, Louise had been at The Pound from the beginning. She was a member of the original team BG claimed to be eternally grateful to for setting up the blog. Louise had participated in the Anna Nicole discussion as Patsy. In fact, when Louise responded to Mabel’s 4/3/07 email, she wrote, “It’s fun just hanging with friends at the blog.”

In reviewing the previous two months we made note of the fact that BG never again joined us in chat after my fallout with Shina. Text messages had been ignored during that time span yet Max still informed BG of his April departure date. In short, the blog owner's communication with the three of us had come to a screeching halt including the day that only Max was apprised of the changing of the guard.

I can unequivocally state that the password change was NOT an issue contrary to the ensuing scuttlebutt. It was most emphatically a case of “Treat people the way you'd like to be treated”, otherwise known as “manners and respect” relative to BG's very own "Sermon on the Mount". The buck undoubtedly stops with Baby Girl. I wrote to her expressing my surprise and disappointment at her lack of sensitivity. I had reasonable expectations that Francesca would react to my thoughts with some level of maturity. I couldn’t possibly have been more wrong. After reading through BG’s defensive and hostile response I concluded she wasn’t a straight shooter and that “Baby Girl” is indeed a most suitable nic for Francesca Franzese.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Say What? - Part 1

2007-09-06T12:13:00.000-04:00

“ANS central now. Sorry I can't relate to this. Nothing happening with / to LS?”
Nonny 04.01.07 - 6:23 am

“Nonny - no one gives a shit about LS.”
anony4damoment
04.01.07 - 10:34 am

“Sorry the joint isn't Fucktard central for ya but it never will be...start a topic Nonny and we'll jump in with ya. The last I've heard of LS aka Itchy Ass, she's still following "The Secret" and I hope the bitch wanders longer than it took the Jews to get out of Israel(sp) to find the answer she's looking for!

(Answer to "The Secret": Treat people the way you'd like to be treated, keep a positive out look on life and be your own fan, blah blah blah...pretty much the same shit you're taught as a child but then it was called manners and respect! (Please insert the rolling eye's at how stupid this pin worm infested bitch is...pfffttt) Later babies! ~Baby Girl 04.01.07 - 1:52 pm

Do you suppose Fran Fran was talking about Moses?
If so, the correct spelling would be E-g-y-p-t !
:rolling eyes: inserted

“Sorry about your luck there Nonny. Any time you find something to talk about the floor is all yours. The secret most be a powerful movie if it can change the heart of a tried and true psycho bitch. I agree with BG though, she'll be back but until I'm loving the fresh air in here. It's hell when you have to worry about her leaving a pinworm or 100 behind. Or if that's really a bottle of tequila! Ewww :shivers:” ~Samantha 04.01.07 - 9:01 pm

“Try this link Miss Sam. I rushed home but missed you...you never answer the phone woman!” ~Baby Girl 04.01.07 - 9:28 pm

“Hey all you sweet'ums, you punkin's you! What's up? How is everyone? Oh all my loverlies.... (yes, yes, fall into my trap...fall into my e-veel-ness) Pffffffffttttttttttttttttttt! (snort) Seriously, I am e-veel! Be careful!”
Baby Girl 04.01.07 - 11:47 pm

“BabyGirl regardless of what you've heard you're one of the sweetest ladies I've ever met. Sorry to ruin your evil bitch reputation :haha: but it's true. I'm sorry we kept missing each other last night. Maybe tonight we can catch up?”
Samantha 04.02.07 - 8:33 am

”Oh my garsh. I'm sorry, but this kind of thing makes me want to fall on my sword: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17762569/ The insipid, misspelled, grammatically challenged doodlings of a 2-digit-IQ trailer trash go-go dancer have been sold for a half mil. This, my friends, is why Dubya is president. ~Posted by: loretta March 24, 2007 01:20 PM”

“Whoretta is insanely covetous of Anna Nicole Smith and admits desirous suicidal thought. Whoretta then goes on to censure the voting American populace for her desire to fall on her sword. One can only surmise Whoretta continues to abnegate herself medical succor as she did with her chronic predicament with pin worms. Sorry y'all I couldn't resist.” ~Samantha 04.02.07 - 8:03 pm

So much for “fresh air”, hmm?

On 4/3/07, Mabel sent TP admins email. Shina was not included. Mabel stated that she had no intentions of returning to The Pound. When her computer died in December, she welcomed the break and embraced life without the "drama". She felt she had sustained hits along the way that she didn’t deserve and wasn't about to return for another kick in the teeth. She was also still upset over the way “V” (Victoria) bailed suddenly. Apparently Mabel had a prior phone conversation with BG since her closing comments indicated the call had been abruptly disconnected. She opined that a dead battery might have been at fault.

I subsequently learned the basis of the phone call was that BG asked for Shina’s phone number. (Snort!) Baby Girl also postulated that Mabel wasn’t coming around because she was “afraid of the goon”. That preposterous notion baffled Mabel. She felt BG was possibly testing her, which is what prompted her to email everyone letting us know where she stood.

”I think you're being too harsh...Anony”

“Snort! Up until now, I've almost been saint-like about it....harsh? Grab a seat baby, you're about to see a show! Of course, all opinions are still open here. Remember that, no Queen in this joint! But I have to stand up now and it's gonna get good! Please feel free to fight me back. I'll actually respect you more if you show me a backbone. Admin, start watching the stats because Fucktard aka Itchy Ass is gonna wanna see how a real fight goes down without The Pound doors slamming shut.” ~Baby Girl 04.04.07 - 3:42 pm

“I shock the piss out of myself knowing that I can get from point A to point B in life at all...forget the Happy Feet dance I do in the mall, just the fact that I drive myself around and can somewhat work the radio really does amaze the fluck out of me! It really does!” ~Baby Girl 04.05.07 - 11:12 pm

Initially I thought this was an act. But now I find it amazing as well.

“The Aflac Caper!
ThumbSnap Preview:
Happy Easter!”
Lola 04.07.07 - 10:50 am

“Hi Lola...hope all is well.”
Messy 04.07.07 - 12:10 pm

“Hi Messy, Life is good! Spring is in the air and there's a list of projects to tackle. And yourself?” ~Lola 04.07.07 - 9:01 pm

“Hey Miss Lola, how's things? You've been very missed around here.”
Baby Girl 04.07.07 - 10:25 pm

The "how's things?" had already been answered in my 9:01 post. As for "being missed", what was there to say?...

"Hey stoopid, what the hell are you talking about? I've been here every single day, but I'm ready to pull my hair out if I see one more Anna Nicole post! Geez, it's not as though the national media hasn't mentioned it every hour on the hour; and then I get to hear it again on the program that follows the local news every night!"

Is that what I should have said? I didn't. Happy Easter was enough!

“Mr. G, my heart is with you and the family, send my love. Hope all is well baby boy. May God bless all of you and your's!” ~Baby Girl 04.08.07 - 6:00 am

On 4/10/07, Max informed me that he was asked to resume a search he had previously conducted in Arizona. His tentative plans to leave on 4/14 were contingent upon his mom’s health since she had recently undergone a medical procedure. After reading BG’s remarks and before Max left, I asked if Baby Girl had answered any of his text messages yet? His response...

” No, BG has not replied to any of my text messages. I just sent her another one to let her know we are leaving tomorrow morning.”

"Poor, poor Howie."

“For being stupid enough to put all his eggs into a basket that didn't belong to him.” ~Anonymous 04.10.07 - 8:16 pm

“Excuse me Mous but Howie didn't put any damn thing in any f-ing basket, Anna did...Howie was only trying to protect the basket per her wishes. Got more? I'm ready!” ~Baby Girl 04.10.07 - 8:39 pm

Oh my! "Got more?" Them's fightin' words!

“Sam, I've loved every sun rise I've watched while chatting with you and completely forgetting the time. You're a funny little brat!”
Baby Girl 04.11.07 - 8:05 pm

It took four days to research and compose the following entry:
Tuesday, April 17, 2007
Virginia Tech, A Day of Sorrow
Posted by Papillon at 1:48 PM

It was a long drawn-out process considering I had to code each image with ThumbSnap via The Pound. When I lost access to Haloscan on 4/17, I wrote Louise asking if she knew what was wrong. Louise confirmed that she too couldn’t get into The Pound’s Haloscan panel. Max was away so we decided to wait for his return and see if he lost access as well. I was too intent on finishing my entry to give it a second thought. When I finally published the "Virginia Tech" entry I went to The Pound to post a link, but decided against doing so since there was a conspicuous lack of interest in the tragic events:

“OK, I'm prepared for the public stoning, BUT... Is anyone else as sick of seeing nothing but the Massacre at Virginia Tech across every newspaper, television station, and internet news source? What happened is tragic. Without a doubt it is a sad day. But do we need to keep it front and center?? Do we really need to be telling other would be attention seekers that they too could get this much attention if they do something equally as horrific?? Do we need to make it some twisted student's goal to break the record by repeatedly bringing up the fact that it is the deadliest school/campus event?? And why the hell aren't we being just as concerned/informed/affected by news of other events which kill as many or more than this one kid did? Sigh... it's all just a sick twisted mess and I'm tired of watching it replay over and over and over just to sell a story.”
anony4damoment 04.17.07 - 10:00 am

“Just to sell a story???” I was tempted to write that I couldn’t fathom spending two months rehashing every tiny aspect of Anna Nicole's untimely death yet, within twenty-four hours, grow weary of media reports surrounding the senseless killing of thirty-two innocent human beings. Instead, I posted the link at The Truth Tree.

“Toonces, I don't know where you found that but Thank You for the best laugh I've had in weeks...and for remembering such a great man. Too bad Steve and Ross didn't do a few more shows together. That was freaking priceless! (If I can ever find a Admin that has a free moment, that has to be on the front page of The Pound)” ~Baby Girl 04.17.07 - 4:57 pm

Note: Access to the front page was already narrowed down to "one available admin" as evidenced by the following:

Tuesday, April 17, 2007
Spring Has Sprung
Posted by Baby Girl at 3:18 PM

Again, what was Baby Girl's point?

“BabyGirl we have posted our favorite guy's video to the front page as requested. Also Pound Loverlies we have a new comment section under the new entry for your convenience. That is all, good day.”
Admin / Shina 04.17.07 - 6:30 pm

I notice how Shina refers to "BabyGirl" (without spacing). It's precisely the way "NotADentist" wrote it in her 12:18 contentious comments that were deleted on 3/26/07. Another coincidence.

Not a Dentist - Part 2

2007-09-02T23:55:00.001-04:00

“Didn't hear from BG last night but I called this morning to let her know she has lots of people thinking of her today. I would like to say I hate that I lost my temper with Denise last night and showed my ass on the board. With that I'll be moving smartly along to other topics.”
Samantha 03.26.07 - 9:47 am

“Morning all! Sam...lost your temper?...that was calm if you ask me. BG-Best of luck.”
Anonymess 03.26.07 - 10:48 am

“BG - you're going to do fine at the dentist. All of us at the anony4da house are keeping you in special prayers.” ~anony4damoment 03.26.07 - 11:05 am

“I sent BG a text of the cause of death.”
Samantha 03.26.07 - 11:14 am

“I say we uncork the Don Peringnon and toast BG, who right now is sitting in the dentist's chair. Here's to BG.” ~Anonymous 03.26.07 - 11:28 am

“I'm hoping we hear from BG soon Anonymous. Maybe it's already over...crossing fingers.” ~Samantha 03.26.07 - 11:33 am

“Baby G, I hope you are doing well, and your date with the dentist wasn't to traumatic.” ~WHAT! 03.26.07 - 7:32 pm

“Sorry to say no word on or from BG yet.”
Samantha 03.26.07 - 7:51 pm

“Michael is making it well known that he is hungry. I'm pretty sure he is trying to make that my problem...the nerve. I'll check back after I feed people.”
Samantha |03.26.07 - 8:28 pm

“Thank you all for your concern and thoughts. I'm okay, I only allowed them to poke around, fight me a little in the chair, do the x-rays and tell me I need a root canal asap.

As for this D shit, I'll handle her but I want all of you to remember this. None of you have to take shit from anyone. There is no Queen here. This place belongs to all of us. If anyone comes here talking smack to one or all of you, please, feel free to rip them a new one! None of you deserved to be spoken to like that and I will have a "chat" with her as soon as I can speak without slurring and seeing double.

D, the last chat we had will be remembered as a trip to Disney Land compared to the one coming! I warned you and by coming here and attacking these people, you have not only insulted me and pissed me off, I feel like you have spit in my face with the lie you told me that it wouldn't happen again. We will be "talking" soon. I think you know what to expect so don't make it worse with any bullshit!”
Baby Girl 03.26.07 - 9:04 pm

Wow! Not exactly what I expected, but at first blush I figured Denise (the one that “earned every dime she got” for dealing with BG), must have done something horrible to provoke such fury. Hindsight being 20/20, I now recognize the impetus could have been anything benign, such as… “I can only express my disappointment.”

“Gal-durn-it! Michael and his need to eat! And if eating wasn't enough I had to go with him to wal-mart too! I missed BabyGirl again, not to mention everybody else that was here too. I'm pouting, no really trust me. I know what will make me feel better though. $100.00 out of the can of whip ass that is awaiting D. Anybody want to trade places with her about now? Yeah me neither!”
Samantha 03.27.07 - 12:22 am

Apparently Shina's revenge quota wasn't quite full. I'm not certain what Denise did to Shina that deserved “whip ass”, but why would Shina feel gratified by abuse? My thoughts turned to December, when Denise rolled out the red carpet.

Flashback:

“Dearest Sammy, I'm so glad you're blogging again...you have such the way with words, you nutty tramp you! I wanted to let you know that I went to pick up my Furs at storage the other day and decided from a entry at your blog that this winter will be Fur-Free. I had no idea and thank you for the heads up.

Honestly, it is in writing that if anything happens to me (knock wood) the boyz are to go to the Sammy house with funding not only for them but all the babies you love and protect. Not kidding you here. For insurance purposes I have to update my "info" aka will on a regular basis and I named you and the Hubby that Brubey is suppose to whack the knee's of as the boyz caretakers. FYI: Pig is a very needy indoors, in the bed with you type. Glad you're back kid!”
Baby Girl 12.04.06 - 9:05 pm

“You know I am your biggest fan and will always be here for you but I wanted to comment on the Sam post. I always thought the two of you seemed a lot alike with your kindness and your feistiness. There have been and still are great women here, I know how much you adored Anita and Katie. I remember the talks we had when you told me how funny they were but I always thought you and Sam were the most alike. I hope you can find a kindred spirit among the pound, you are a very special woman. I hope someday they will know all of what made you the person you are. I admit, I can't keep up with you but I and S will always be close by if you need anything. I wish all could come back together but if not, at least you and Sam have found a path back to each other.

Sam and everyone at the pound, you are lucky. I have put Francesca in many a position where I should have been dead to her but I know if I ever need her, she is there. I know she would not want this to turn into a BG lovefest so I will stop now and say welcome home Sam. Maybe the other's will return someday also. All my best, D. S still blushes when he is in front of F because of the garage IM. LOL!
I love you girl!" ~D 12.04.06 - 10:57 pm

"I know she would not want this to turn into a BG lovefest"
"Too late, it already is a BG lovefest."
Anonymous 12.04.06 - 11:02 pm

“Thank you Anony. I do not post much because I tend to ramble and gush but I can not imagine a day where I am not reading at the pound. You all are so interesting in your own personalities. May God walk with the father in the post above. Admin, I know you are on high alert with me so delete or edit as you see fit.” ~D 12.04.06 - 11:14 pm

“Hey D hope you're doing well. Thanks for the welcome home. It's good to be home again.” ~Sam 12.04.06 - 11:22 pm

“Hi Sam. I tend to tear up too while reading here. Mostly I am LOL but sometimes these ladies rip the guts completely out of one. As I said before, welcome home you BG clone. LOL” ~D 12.04.06 - 11:26 pm

“Samantha, I so BG's paper work so she is telling the truth with the will information. May I add, Little spoiled Fatboy is like velcro. A complete Momma's boy. Good luck if it becomes your place.” ~D 12.04.06 - 11:29 pm

“Just wow Anonymous...blown away here. Thanks! If anybody has a problem with me period my email is still shinahart at charter dot net. Out of respect for the pound crew take it to my email please and thanks.”
Sam 12.04.06 - 11:39 pm

“Sam, I know for sure you are at home with BG. You two are too much alike to stay apart. Besides, you are a fighter too. No one can make you leave and you have alot of fans here. Myself included.” ~D 12.04.06 - 11:45 pm

"Fans, there's only one star on this blog and her name is BG. I'm loving just being in the crowd with friends. My teeth are numb. Maybe I should slow down on the Martinis? Then again maybe not." ~Sam | 12.04.06 - 11:50 pm

“Drink up BG Jr. I think we are the only one's here at the moment. Bg wants nothing to do with being a star. See, there I go gabbing again with her personal information. Does anyone know who won the Carolina-Philly game? How is that crazy bird of your's I've heard so much about? I was told Boston gave you some bird tips. Did they help?" ~D 12.04.06 - 11:55 pm

"The Hitch man is doing great D. B was very helpful to say the least.
Hitch loves his papertowels lol. (snip)

Anonymous you're too kind. Thank you for your support and lovley words. (((Anonymous))). God love ya. All that is water under the bridge now and the slates are clean in my book. I love everybody well except for one or two crazy muthafluckers over there. Everybody else who has/had issues with me eh fuck it we live and learn." ~Sam |12.05.06 - 12:13 am

Obviously Denise was a big fan of Shina’s in December, so what changed in three months? To refresh your memory, it was around the time we were notified that Brutus was ailing and certain photos of Britney Spears were in circulation.

“Sending lots of prayers for Bru Bru. Whatz a matter fella? BG the cell is on.”
Sam 12.05.06 - 12:23 am

“WTF is up with Brit these days? Seeing her vajay jay was not the highlight of my year. No really I'm serious :gag:. Not only have I seen THAT but I've seen her c section scar and ass chaffing. Brit my God girl get a grip and some panties for Pete's sake!
Link removed by Admin. Photos are fake.
graphic and not safe for work.”
Sam | 12.05.06 - 9:46 am

“Hi Sammy and crew! I'm here off an on.... when I can be!”
Mad Max | 12.05.06 - 10:34 am

“Excuse me ladies while I go bitch slap this girl I work with. BBL”
Anonymess | 12.05.06 - 11:00 am

UPDATE: I didn't even notice but in that first picture Paris is closing Britney's legs. You know you're this close to becoming a human condom when Paris Hilton is showing more sense than you. Usually you'd be better off taking advice from that guy who likes to take dumps in the subway. ~Quote from The Superficial.
“Toonces was right”
Sam | 12.05.06 - 4:44 pm

“Sorry to have worried you guys. Brute knows that at his age, I'll fall for any of his tricks. Should have seen the pitiful acting he did. Could barely eat his Jumbone until I let him on the sofa then it was party time! (Looked like he was on a freaking trampoline) Oh the day I've had...Goon, who by the way, has until Friday night to do his pole dance so he called every hour on the hour with a new bet...I'm saying no more bets until I see the booty spin!

Had two meetings back to back, of course, on opposite sides of town, went to pick out the new bar for here and ended up buying a new table and chair set for the nook and I look over and see two tree looking things and had to have those. Then, an eye appointment and back across town to buy new frames and a couple of boxes of contacts. Whew...and I still haven't figured out a way to ask the neighbors how they'd feel about the come shots. Gonna get the boyz settled, back in a few loverlies!” ~D 12.05.06 - 6:23 pm

Oops!

“Sorry again, was also e-mailing D that Brute is doing fine. Sheese...Thank Gawd I didn't put her actual screen name on there! (admin, leave it that way...wanna hear that call when she swears she didn't write it...snort!) back in a few.”
Baby Girl 12.05.06 - 6:28 pm

"Pitiful acting" must run in the family! Snort!

“After a very careful forensic examination of the photos of Britney Spears, purportedly not wearing undies, I determined the alleged photos were fake. The link was removed.” ~Admin | 12.05.06 - 7:11 pm

“If you enlarge the appropriate "parts" of the photos, you can see where the non Britney "parts" were pasted in. When viewed in their posted size, they do look real. I am sure Britney's appropriate "handlers" are aware of the photos. I don't care who you are (except maybe....) nobody deserves that kind of treatment.”
Admin | 12.05.06 - 7:38 pm

“Admin removed the link because they said the photos were fake. I thought that was strange because every other site says they're real.”
Sam | 12.06.06 - 8:51 pm

“Any first grader can examine the main photo and tell it has been altered. The alterations in the others are more subtle but the artifacts of alteration are still there. If you would like, I will email you a copy showing the added in portion.”
Admin | 12.06.06 - 9:03 pm

“Honestly Admin I couldn't give a shit.”
Sam | 12.06.06 - 9:09 pm

“Nor could I Sam! I don't think any one here would like to see "it" enlarged 600 percent. When you do, it is obvious. Nuff said.....”
Admin | 12.06.06 - 9:13 pm

“I'll see yall later.”
Sam |12.06.06 - 9:19 pm

“Oh...did I miss anything other than being at lunch when a certain Admin text'd me and ask permission to kill the Brit Brit birthing area chat? (BTW, Thanks for that image Admin! Thank you soooo much)” ~Baby Girl | 12.07.06 - 8:08 pm

“Sorry BG but "it" was spoiling my lunch too!”
Admin | 12.07.06 - 8:20 pm

“I wish all the posters and readers here knew that you guys take as much care of them as you do me...without you guys, The Pound would die. What a sad thought after all the work all of you have put into this...esp the beginning when almost everyday you had bullshit breaking out all over the place. I "hearty" all the crew, the posters and the still timid readers who visit everyday.”
Baby Girl |12.07.06 - 9:23 pm

Not a Dentist - Part 1

2007-09-01T14:17:00.001-04:00

When Baby Girl asked for a tribute to honor Jessica Lunsford in March 2007, I obliged. By the time the entry was ready for publishing, I received an email from Max informing me that Shina had to transfer the blog to the new Blogger some time back so she set up a new Google account. I had never done an entry for The Pound before, so Max provided the new login. Considering the tribute was done at BG’s request, I presumed she knew who had put it all together.

The multifaceted Anna Nicole Smith tragedy was the primary topic of discussion at The Pound for weeks. Anna Nicole was not the center of my universe, so I pretty much kept an eye on the board without comment while redesigning the layout of my kitchen.

“Thank you so much. Everytime I see little Jessica, I remember the nasty vile garbage that someone over there spilled about her father Mark. He continues to fight the fight, as well as trying to handle his own loss. I bet you will never see wokeye admit she made a wrong call on Mark Lunsford. Or they may not be in the same class as her.” ~why 03.11.07 - 8:06 pm

“I've never read any let up on Mark from crawly ass, even after he was cleared and they caught that bastard Couey...she made a remark about Mark milking the tragedy and how much he was loving the spot light, that's what I jumped her over in private and she posted my e-mail as a "I love you" type thing on her blog. Not that she milked Laci's death or anything thou [sic] did she? Bottom feeding bitch!”
Baby Girl 03.11.07 - 8:10 pm

The following day, Shina complained about her electric bill. I replied as Anonymous, and since Shina knows my IP she was capable of identifying who authored the post.

”How do you go from having the same electric bills for two years to having a 150.00 to 200.00 increase without adding or changing anything except using less electricity? ~Samantha 03.12.07 - 4:32 pm”

“When something major is malfunctioning. Happened to me when the well pump was on its last leg and straining to operate. Sure enough, after the pump quit and was replaced, the electric bill went back to normal range.”
Anonymous 03.12.07 - 9:27 pm

Max, Louise, and myself continued to communicate through chat, but neither Shina nor BG ever returned to IM again. Although Max periodically sent BG text messages, he told me they had gone unanswered.

“I spoke to Sammy on the phone last night and she didn't budge an inch on her disgust with her Howie hate...snort! Gotta love a girl that stands her ground! Oh and she and Brutal spoke. ( I freaking kid you not...he literally spoke to her. (kisses to my Mr. G man where ever he may be...winkles & smooches baby boy!)”
Baby Girl 03.18.07 - 11:31 pm

“It's look to the media, kiddies. Everybody's doing this on the come. It's sell a book, sell photos, sell secrets. A British news agency is footing Virgie's bills."
Patsy 03.19.07 - 12:41 am

“I know I mentioned this on the phone to BG but wasn't sure if I posted it here too. From www.ishowardksternamurderer.com/” ~Samantha 03.19.07 - 4:14 am

“BabyGirl the parts in bold is the information I was telling you about on the phone.” ~Samantha 03.19.07 - 4:29 am

In defense of Howard K. Stern
and apparently the controversial poster known as "D"...

“I had someone in my life for over 10 years that "worked" exclusively for the company but was basically mine. Her bills were paid, rent, clothing, cell and phone bills, a car and her gas. If I wasn't around and she needed extra cash, she wrote herself a check from my account and signed my name. She wasn't a leech, she wasn't a hanger-on and she wasn't using me. Believe me when I say she earned every dime she got dealing with me and my crazy shit! Some of you may remember her...D?” ~Baby Girl 03.19.07 - 8:16 pm

“BabyGirl a friggin blast talking to ya tonight on the phone as always! Let me know what you decide to watch on our movie night!” ~Samantha 03.21.07 - 5:02 am

“I truly wish I wasn't such a dumbass with this Halo scan thing! Thanks in advance, Admin!” ~Toonces the Driving Cat 03.24.07 - 10:48 pm

“I would go in and fix your link but Admin prefers that I not go digging in the lab so to speak...I'm sure it will be fixed in the morn. Nite my sweet Mr. G-man, where ever you are...I miss and luv ya baby boy! (I miss Mabel, Louise, Lola, Pei Pal, Clifford's Mom and so many others also but if they are off enjoying life than I say best to ya kids!)” ~Baby Girl 03.24.07 - 11:15 pm

This statement is positively mind-boggling. If Baby Girl believed the 'crew' was MIA, who did she think provided the current entry? Who was left minding the store? Shina? If so, Shina didn’t bother fixing Toonces blockquote, I did. Evidently BG missed Patsy's comments as well.

“BG, I hate dentists, too. I've spent a great deal of my life sitting in dentist's chairs. I fear some day when I'm sitting there, I might growl like a mad dog, and bite the bastard in his face. But I never do. I just sit there and make nice, counting the minutes until it's over.” ~Anonymous 03.24.07 - 11:54 pm

“Ditto about the dentists Anonymous. I keep telling mine that he needs to put up a pic on the ceiling for us ladies to take our minds off of the dentistry. Say for example, a hunk on a beach.. just saying.” ~Patsy 03.25.07 - 12:01 am

“Stern doesn't have children.
BG I know how afraid you must be, I will be around in the morning if you need me. Remember, I love you as if you were my own. Everything will be fine. I promise! Do your steps. Fight it out until with A until you get tired and let the medicine take effect and it will be over before you know it. A, R and C would never in a million years allow anything to happen to you. You are a very brave girl, you are strong and you can and will do what you need to do. You will be alright. I swear on my soul. I wish you would answer the phone but I know why you won't so if you see this, I am here. I am only a call away. Love you little one with all my heart.”
NotADentist / Denise 03.25.07 - 11:20 pm

“Hey BG, Just got your message. Since the Goon is prolly sleeping I won't call and wake him. But if you see this in the next little bit call me back! Wish I could be there with you tomorrow. Offer to talk you through via phone is still on the table. Whatever it takes sweet lady. Big Hugs (((BabyGirl))) Thinking of you.”
Samantha 03.25.07 - 11:45 pm

“Oh I am sorry Not A Dentist. I thought I read somewhere, that Howard K Stern had been married and had two children. Maybe it was another Howard Stern. Sorry.” ~meme 03.26.07 - 12:15 am

“It was another Howard K Stern. A very easy mistake meme. Do not believe all you hear and only half of what you see. Howard's attorney's will hold a presser tomorrow at 3.” ~NotADentist / Denise 03.26.07 - 12:23 am

“Denise up your dosage you crazy bitch! How many times does BG have to you to leave her alone? You're so damn jealous of her it's SICK! I don't take money from BG like YOU!” ~Samantha 03.26.07 - 12:33 am

"JMO but none of you know how to take care of BabyGirl. You are only here for your own agendas about Loretta. You could not care less for BabyGirl. You do not know her! How many of you does she support financially? Is that friendship? Well played, very well played. She has a heart and some of you found it.
Whoop-eeee
Where will you be tomorrow? Not with her but I will take a guess that you would be around your mailbox to accept her check. You have no idea what she goes through with these sessions. NONE! She is child like in her fear. Do ant [sic] of you care? Will you lose sleep? And Sam, you missed her call. Convenient? Why this board is still open , other then her love for G is beyond me. She needs her hand held, she needs a hug. Are any of you there? NO Stop posing people. Let her go. Loretta has moved on, why can't the rest of you?
~NotADentist 03.26.07 - 12:18 am”

“Look, NotADentist, Whoever BG decides to bestow gifts upon is none of your damned business. What? Are you jealous? Okay, I admit I've been drinking for free at BG's bar for months, but don't you go assuming that I don't love and care for her very much, or that I don't appreciate every fabulous drink that's been served to me. How dare you? Now, you apologize, right now.”

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Anonymous 03.26.07 - 12:33 am

“Denise I'm so sick of you and trust me I'm not the only one who feels this way. How fucking dare you come on here and pretend to be BG's friend and we are only using her! How fucking dare you! You're the crazy bitch posting BG's personal life and real names on this site! We here to protect her and love her! You're here (though banned numerous times) because you're fucking obsessed with her! You wished her death remember? Yeah fucking right you love her. Eat shit Denise....EAT SHIT BITCH!” ~Samantha 03.26.07 - 12:42 am

“By the fucking way Denise I missed her call because I caught a nap so I could stay up all night if that's what she needed. You're so fucking crazy pills can't help you!” ~Samantha 03.26.07 - 12:46 am

“I think Denise blames this blog for the demise of her friendship with BG. I think she's thinking if this blog goes away, BG will have more time for her. Hey Denise, BG is hardly ever here. She's too busy. When she is here, it's a real treat, but it's rare. We have nothing to do with your relationship with BG.”
Anonymous 03.26.07 - 12:46 am

“There's no getting through to that crazy bitch. We're not the problem with her and BG SHE'S THE PROBLEM. Her obsession, control, lies and posting of real names etc is what caused their friendship to end. Thank God BG saw through Denise before it was too late unlike Anna who wasn't so lucky. Like now BG may be at least resting or hopefully asleep but I may need to call her and let her know Crazy skipped a dose. See Denise that girl is why I can't stand you!”
Samantha 03.26.07 - 12:53 am

“Oh she will love that Sam and by the way, good shoot at banning me. I was with her 16 years Sam. You? She needs someone tomorrow and I should be there. How dare you imply otherwise! You have no idea of what you speak. Gene, please take care of her and I never wished her death! Why she cares for you people I will never understand. G'NITE users!” ~NotADentist / Denise 03.26.07 - 1:01 am

“Can banned people still comment? 16 years wow. Is that how long it'll take for you to leave her alone and stop attacking her real friends?”
Samantha 03.26.07 - 1:04 am

“I'll be here babysitting the board...loverly..the phone is charged and waiting BG if you read this and want to call.” ~Samantha 03.26.07 - 1:24 am

I watched the NotADentist/Samantha tussle for about an hour before turning in. When I logged on the following morning, I noticed an admin had edited NotADentist’s post by attaching “Denise” to the signature. It was one thing for Samantha to out Denise if that’s who she thought the person was, but it’s wrong for an admin to willfully expose any poster other than a monkey. Max was away and I seriously doubted Louise would do such a thing, so I checked the out clicks at Sitemeter, which confirmed that Shina Hart was responsible for the change.

Apparently, Shina deleted the 12:18 am post by NotADentist, sometime after Anonymous @ 12:33 am blockquoted it. However, Shina edited out names from the 12:33 am remarks as indicated in the actual post. With all these revisions, I was surprised to see a mistake that had been overlooked. A post following one of Shina’s had become merged with hers. I don’t know how that happens, but it has something to do with the way one blockquotes. In any event, I fixed it.

I was anxious to see Baby Girl’s reaction to the Denise scrimmage, especially after the Howard K. Stern analogy. Personally, I thought it was distasteful to criticize Denise, considering she had been a personal friend of Baby Girl’s. I rationalized that any differences they had were between the two of them and were none of my business. Furthermore, Denise seemed to care for BG and I didn’t perceive her comments as attacks. Nevertheless, Denise was banned from posting in early January 2007 for revealing personal information that was deleted in short order. Any subsequent posts with her nic were through an AOL IP.

~~~~~

Flashback - Part 3

2007-08-29T21:00:00.000-04:00

In retrospect, all calculated detours in the Darragh/Loretta/
Vero/Jane Truth/Truth Teller shuffle from October/November of 2006 are manifest. Shina lied to mtnwmn about who posted her photo with the striped top. Shina was wrong about Jane Truth being Truth Teller. Shina was dishonest with regard to Darragh stalking anyone. Shina's insinuation that Anne and Loretta are the same person was foolhardy. And the most preposterous declaration:
"My battle with Loretta has been over for months, she's dead to me. Goodbye hate war for the last time." ~Samantha 11.14.06

And when Shina painstakingly scrutinized the “new” tribute blog of her own accord, the conclusions she formulated were similarly paradoxical. For starters, Shina conveniently overlooked two glaringly obvious clues, YouTube and the liberal use of profanity.

Shina’s points:

1. “Whoever this blogger is has a big problem with mostly Pap.
Brilliant deduction! No really! I would have never guessed!

2. They call you a perv they call you ShipWreck and Sir Charles.
“Ohh, and there is a supposed man among these mutts, the pervert Gene R*lst*n.” ~10/4/06 (Mutt's Hypocrisy)

3. They don't say anything much about me just enough to piss me off …
Amen, sister! Is there anything that doesn’t piss Shina off, hmmm?

4. They link to Pap's Blog and LH2 but not The Pound.
It isn’t about “The Pound” why would they advertise it? Pray tell?

5. They call Anne a Brazilian Nut but Loretta and Vero by their respective names.
Hint!: im·per·son·ate (verb) – Definition: pretend to be another

Shina’s observations:

Technorati tags.
This is quite funny coming from the tag queen herself, Miss “Technoodle”!

They call themselves a fellow LHs.
Duh!: im·per·son·ate (verb) – Definition: pretend to be another

‘SHINA HART - Poor girl!’ Who felt pity for me? ANITA.
“SHINA HART - Poor girl! This was Shina goooogling herself “ ~1/4/07 (spite blog)

They call Mr G ’Shippy’. I looked through their old posts at the pound and only Anit [sic] and co called Mr G ’shippy’
Shippy used by ---> loretta, NM, Baby Girl, Anonymous, Anony, Ntegrity, Word, madisonmutt, Patsy, Jamie is Closet. ~11.09.06 thru 11.14.06 (TP)

This person isn't pissed about what Papi writes their pissed that she does.
"I write ad-nauseum about Loretta Serrano..." ~12/9/06 (spite blog)

And they don't mention BG or the Pound. Now who is skeered of BG?
"Then I advertise it within my sicko Blogfriends BG, Gene R*lst*n and Cathy L*veliness DiS*ntis. They love it.” ~12/9/06 (spite blog)

The logic behind Shina’s rendition of the following entry is baffling:

(Spite blog: 12/18/06) - Chapter I
Gene R*lst*n: Web conduct, bad manners! No side scan s*nar activities! Has the teacher become senile or is he playing dumb? Gene R*lst*n (also known around the web as Ship Wreck, Sir Charge and others), have you forgotten about what you have been teaching and preaching for the past year? Never without protection! Duhhh.

A question to the teacher: What does Auckland have in common with Bombay, Te Kauwhata, Hamilton and Taupo (besides being cities in New Zealand)? Answer: Anonymizer "du jour"! Question: Do you need to go visit a Blog to check for new entries like your pal Shina uses to do (compulsively, all day long)? Answer: No! You use Blog update notification to track blog changes! How efficient! Really?

Shina’s interpretation: “The part that bugs me about that post is 'bad manners! No side scan s*nar'. Remember bad monkey no banana, who wrote that? ANITA. No they're saying you've bad so no fun for you.”

(Note: Clearly the owner of the spite blog is not the brightest light in the harbor. On 12/18 she accused Mr. R*lst*n of visiting the site with a New Zealand IP. In her next entry, dated 1/4/07 the author stated:

“We have the loyal and good friend Gene R*lst*n, the side scan s*nar man!
With protection!

She then listed IPs attributed to 55 visits from an Auckland, New Zealand visitor. The specified IP is actually associated with a frequent visitor to the blogs, NOT Mr. R*lst*n. Apparently, New Zealand heeded the author’s 12/18 warning and returned with an anonymizer. Too funny!

Writing comparisons from: Hypocritical Mutts 10/19/06: Ohhh Mutts. (note the 3 h’s as in this author’s Duhhh.) And since “nurse” is the topic du jour (similar to this author's "Anonymizer "du jour"!)

This blogger inserted parenthesis three times in the above entry. She utilized them as an aside in providing additional information. It’s a style that Truth Teller aka Anne from Brazil of “Hypocritical Mutts” employed religiously.

"Oh thats right yall don't know. I went off! I mean I threatened Loretta within an inch of her life at her blog. She did nothing, but babs and smartass Monica were sent in to calm me down."

Date: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:07 PM
From: Shina – To: Misfit Barbara – Subject: Why?
“Do you know who is doing this stuff if not Loretta? Because they're using Loretta's name. I just want this shit to stop once and for all.”

Reality check: "Sent in to calm her down"? Babs and "smartass" Monica were responding to emails Shina had sent! (Snort)

“Yeah well it's about to hit the fan again and Ladies I mean hit the ever lovin fan from hell not with Loretta either. Long story short, I think I have proof it's Anita and gang doing the calling and the current hate blog." ~2/2/07

"It's bothering me so much about finding out who it is I've spent the past few days researching the blog itself, links from and to it, old posts by pound peeps past and present, usenet posts, google cache, shit you name it I've looked at it. And I swear to God I didn't want to think Anita, Katie, Andrea and Peace were behind this but after everything I found well I'm certain it's them." ~2/2/07

And I swear to God that I didn’t want to think Shina Hart would deliberately misrepresent the facts to conform with her precarious agenda. Shina lost all credibility with me when she persistently repeated the same fabrications. And after everything I’ve learned, I’m certain that her motives were not pure. Shina didn’t have proof she invented it. An overactive imagination combined with immature emotions that are wracked with resentment and rage is a recipe for disaster.

When I had concerns about Shina’s perfidious covenant with Loretta, I was told that Shina deeply regretted her actions and was doing everything in her power to remedy the situation. Since I wasn’t affected by Shina’s disloyalty I chose to trust another person's judgment and cut Shina slack. I reasoned that we all make mistakes and everyone deserves a second chance. When Shina pulled this stunt it became crystal-clear that leniency was a substantial error on my part. Some people are just plain troublemakers.

Equipped with nothing more than Technocrati tags and tenuous guarantees from misfits, Shina stockpiled her contrived war arsenal as she urged posters to join in the blitzkrieg she was prepared to launch against the very same people she had formerly betrayed. I don’t care how you analyze it, Shina’s campaign was neurotic, obsessive and malignant. After inciting public outrage against her onetime friends with wild accusations and speculation, Shina retreated with a few modifications.

“Since finding out who Ms Stalker is I'm now officially bored with her. Hide and seek on the Internet is only fun when you have a worthy opponent. Ms Stalker has proved to be a rather large disappointment.”
Samantha 02.07.07 - 8:16 pm

“I'm still on that ridiculous excuse for a blog. It's always been clear I'm not their main target. And really they don't say anything bad about me on it. What pissed me off was number one they were attacking my friends. Number two they had the nerve to call me and somebody in my family. I wanted the bitches to know they had my full attention.

Now that they can only post videos, lyrics and other idiotic bullshit for fear (cowards..eh) somebody will recognize their writing styles, I couldn't care less about them. They've been spayed with a butter knife...Youch! Sucks to be them.”
Samantha 02.08.07 - 12:58 am

“Oh trust me it's not me being nice, I'd exposed them long ago. Because I respect the wishes of my friends they will remain nameless until everybody is ready to out them. Or until the cowards get a backbone and put a signature on their blog...yeah right.” ~Samantha 02.08.07 - 1:06 am

“As far as mwah girl (as somebody else called her) goes...eh I couldn't care less what happens to her online. I'm not saying I condone publishing private emails but after the shit she's pulled over and over she no longer has my support or concern. And that goes for her groupies as well. They can all kiss my ass and THEY know why. And trust me I already know they don't care what I think.”
Samantha 02.11.07 - 6:38 pm

“Anyway I'm past the drama from both sides, still have opinions of course, but as far as giving a damn I don't. That is until the newer cowards grow a pair or a brain and claim their hate blog to work this shit out. At least the hobags over there put a name on their hate blogs. It's on these cowards to live with the fact they've stooped even lower than Loretta Serrano or Anne Curi. I'd rather be dead than to be known for that, just sayin.” ~Samantha 02.12.07 - 2:22 am

Shina failed to prove any correlation between the phone calls and the spite blog. Shina failed to pursue the issue even though she claimed she was 99.9% certain who was responsible for both. After expending so much energy in pursuit of the culprit and raising suspicion, what did Shina gain? Her reward was sympathy. She duped everyone into thinking she was the victim and those that fell for it stroked her insatiable massive ego.

“I feel really sorry far Sam...she has had a really tough time with all of this, and now I don't think she knows who she can trust.”
are you sure 02.08.07 - 5:43 pm

Hello? Does 99.9% certainty ring a bell? When you're convinced you have those kinds of odds in your favor, you either give it all you've got or shut up already!

I had grown tired of Shina’s extensive list of complaints and the habitual upheavals she engineered. I thought about her infinite capacity for turmoil and contemplated the scope of unresolved issues she nurtured. I questioned how she had the gall to target unwitting people with total abandon in her frenzied efforts to validate her inept theories. I wondered how many times she had been mistaken when she felt certain she was 99.9% right.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Usenet: Samantha (Shina) - 11/9/05 @ 8:54 pm
Well, well, well seems I have stumbled upon someone's kitchen.
It's poorly decorated but I found lots of cake. Wanna see?

Hey LowBitch and Monkeys how about a nice glass of http://static.flickr.com/32/61718511_8034cdc7ee_o.jpg
to wash down all that cake?

RUN. DELETE. HIDE.
But it's too late you're BUSTED! ROFLMAO!
Hey LowBitch remember Hell?

Usenet: Samantha (Shina) - 11/9/05 @ 9:18 pm
Happy 40th Anniversary to you know who over -----> there!
LMAO! I can't wait to dish out all this CAKE I found, snort!

Usenet: Loretta – 11/9/05 @ 9:42 pm
FASCINATING!
You just discovered the slide show on the front page of my blog.
It only took you, what, two weeks? That's not the kitchen, Spammy.
You aren't even warm.

Usenet: Samantha (Shina) - 11/9/05 @ 9:58 pm
You lying liar! Look at http://www.misfitting.com/
Skin the site in every skin. Do you see any of those photos out front?
Ummmm NOPE! Nice try to duck and cover though!

Usenet: Loretta – 11/9/05 @ 10:38 pm
Check the flute design. Scroll down. Left hand side.
Image slide show. Refresh, refresh, refresh.
Oh look! By gum there are cakes!

"It is better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to open your mouth
and remove all doubt." ~Anonymous

Flashback - Part 2

2007-08-24T12:43:00.000-04:00

I didn’t know much about Shina when she committed her act of treason in May 2006, but I was thoroughly disgusted by the rupture she spawned. There isn’t one of us in a position to judge the impact Shina’s betrayal had on those who were affected by her self-serving conduct. Shina had sown the seeds of doubt but wasn’t mature enough to accept the fact that some people would never trust her again. She also wasn’t gracious enough to embrace an olive branch when extended.

On 8/15/06, KCL sent me a copy of an email she had forwarded to Shina, which was forthright and sincere. KCL blamed her own inability to recognize Shina as “a child of God” and asked for forgiveness. KCL said as much the day the tribute blogs were dismantled.

“When I left the blogs back in Aug or Sept. and said my goodbyes then, I also wrote Sam directly and apologized to her and completely resolved things with Sam. It was mutual and I've not said a word about her since and have felt totally at peace with things between us personally. So there's the public acknowledgement of that. I let some people know I had done that but it was most important, to me, as I moved on that Sam and I were not hating each other and there was forgiveness.” ~katiecool*dy 11.12.06 - 4:37 pm

“I have no grievance with Samantha now and have not for some time. Samantha knows this and if anyone else has issues with me that they need to resolve I am totally open to that.” ~katiecool*dy 11.12.06 - 6:30 pm

Shina's response was not about forgiveness…

“Katie before I contacted Loretta we barely spoke to each other. We were never close and we didn't email, IM or phone each other. Like the others we supported each other on the blogs. Why you took such an issue with me still confuses me. I was wrong I said I was. You forgave me in emails, but fanned the flames on the blogs and in other emails. I accepted your apology for lying about me on the blogs and in emails. But even after you apologized if I was mentioned on the blogs you went into attack mode. It's ok if you don't like me, but to lie about me because you just don't like me was wrong.

If you're at peace I'm happy for you. I guess I'm at peace with only being able to support my friends in emails, phone and IM because you thought it best to lie about me and rake me over the coals even though others asked you not to and just ignore me on the blogs. They asked us to post around each other and I was ok with that but you couldn't do it. I posted as anonymous and supported you through it all even after you decided to hate me. But as long as you have peace its all good right?” ~Samantha 11.14.06 - 8:09 pm

Perhaps those with a better memory than mine can recall Katie doing any of the things Shina refers to after 8/15/06, but I can’t.

“I took the hits for bash blogs, usenet posts and many other things I didn't do. I took it because I felt I wronged people and it was my place to take the heat for them. I could have found out who owned lowdoo and stop serrano and turned the attacks on the real owners but I didn't. No matter how I try to undo the harm I caused it will never be good enough for some. To those that have remained my friend though out all of this thank you. Like always we have email, IM and the phone! My battle with Loretta has been over for months, she's dead to me. Goodbye hate war for the last time.”
Samantha 11.14.06 - 8:09 pm

“Where was Katie and Anita when my bash blog went back up because of their blogs about Loretta?” ~Samantha 11.15.06 - 12:00 am

Hello? If these two entries don’t look like engraved invitations to take her tribute blog out of mothballs, I don’t know what does!

Loretta Serrano Dillon is an EVIL BITCH! October 14,2006 04:56 GMT -I imagine my hate blog that Loretta Serrano Dillon runs at www.shina-hart.blogspot.com will be back up and in business because you will see this as my "asking for it". But in truth I had left you alone and you as of today continue to ...shina-hart.blogspot.com/2006/10

Shina Hart Fights Back - Since Loretta Serrano Dillon claims she is not the owner of these hate blogs created to harass, bully and stalk, lets see how long it takes for the Shina Hart hate blog to come back to life! Watch with me Loretta Serrano Dillon's Hate Blog Created to Stalk and Libel Shina Hart if you like! - by beingshina in Shina Hart Fights Back

“I now have two blogs where as I only had one until you started your bullshit with me stalker. I've place saved several blogs because of your crazy stalking ass but they're not what I consider active, nor will they ever be. I only have one blog about you Loretta, this one, and let me remind you AGAIN it didn't exist until YOU STARTED YOU BULLSHIT WITH ME on 10-13-2006! You want this blog to go away like the others I created to FIGHT OFF YOUR LIES,
STOP HARASSING ME FUCKTARD!” - 11/4/06

loretta said...
Oh, and not to forget the
"Where in the Hell is Lowdoo" blob that Shina takes credit for.

shina-hart.blogspot.com/
shinahart.blogspot.com/
chrishinahart.blogspot.com
being-shina.blogspot.com/
samanthaheart.blogspot (defunct)
lorettaserranodillon.blogspot (defunt)
lorettaserranoisacyberstalker.blogspot (defunt)
lorettaserranoisaf*tard.blogspot (defunct)
And several others with variations on Samantha Hart/Heart, Shina Hart/Heart, Hart's wife, Heart's wife, etc. ~11/5/06 @ 7:21 PM

”I don't think anyone ever doubted that Samantha was the one behind posting all that information at Usenet”

“I don't believe for a minute that Samantha was responsible for ALL of the information at Usenet, and Samantha never cut ties with ALL of us, either. Stop making shit up about Samantha. Samantha has suffered enough.”
Anonymous 11.18.06 - 5:31 pm

”Samantha has suffered enough. ~Anonymous 11.18.06 - 5:31 pm”

“I didn't realize she was suffering. I saw her posting back and forth with Vero at her blog over a week ago. And her blog had an entry about not being involved in the blog war and wanting to be left alone by everyone. I must have misunderstood the meaning. My apologies.”
Anonymous 11.18.06 - 5:36 pm

“Loretta don't you ever email me again! That's not my damn blog, never has been, never will be. FUCK OFF AND DIE ALREADY YOU CRAZY FUCKING BITCH! You go ahead and take me court you crazy fuck I'll laugh my way all the BANK BITCH! I'm telling you for the last time LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE!”
Samantha 11.18.06 - 6:47 pm

“I'm sick of Low, the threats, the lies and all around bullshit that hasn't stopped for over a year. I'm only going to say this one time Low so take notes you cracked out fucked in the head evil beast of a self centered waste of space good for nothing piece of sorry white trash BITCH! I deleted ALL things referring to you at the ONE blog I reopened to fight off your attacks on me! I deleted ALL my posts at usenet I posted. Though you haven't deleted a single threat, lie or comment about me at usenet.

I'm not an admin or owner at The Truth Tree, The Pound, LH2, Hall of Shame, Lopats sites, Lowdoo, Stop Serrano or any other blog created about your evil ways. I haven't bothered, email or posted about you in fucking forever! Yet you continue to threaten me with your lies. For the last time I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOU! You could die a slow painful death and I wouldn't shed a single tear! BANK ON THAT BITCH!

Whoever MAY be feeding this shit to Loretta FUCK YOU TOO! You would be well advised not to fuck with me about this shit again! All of you crazy no life having fuckheads need not email me again! Don't bring me back into this shit! I'm telling ya it won't be nice! Disclaimer:This post isn't to any friendly pup.”
Samantha 11.18.06 - 7:07 pm

“Samantha, I don't know you but gotta say I like your style.”
Anonymess 11.18.06 - 7:12 pm

For someone who doesn’t want to be brought back into this, suffering Samantha keeps loading the cannon. On Tuesday 11/21/06, Shina sent the following email to five people:

Maybe someone should quote this mission statement from Lori/Loretta Serrano's job website and include her quotes about wishing they all died?????

“Contact Information for Customers Affected by Hurricanes At Bankers Life and Casualty Company we extend our concern and sympathy to everyone whose lives have been impacted by hurricane disasters. If you are a Bankers customer with questions or concerns about billing, claims or any other service issue please call us toll-free at 1-800-843-9085 or E-mail Us. “

To my knowledge, no one took Samantha/Shina up on her suggestion.

Flashback - Part 1

2007-08-22T14:10:00.000-04:00

There was a chat session on 10/6/06, in which the topic of discussion was the newly constructed “Hypocritical Mutts“ website. When Shina arrived, she proudly announced that she had found Mgt. Those in attendance expressed their surprise by typing the question, “Why?”... in concert. Shina then provided a link to a blog allegedly maintained by Mgt as proof of her assertions.

The reality was the site belonged to a person called Mtnwmn or Darragh. Neither name was familiar to me, yet people remembered her from misfitting. Subsequently, Mtnwmn was featured along with various misfits in a slideshow that was posted on 10/7/06 in retaliation for the personal photos TruthTeller had published at the spite blogs. Darragh was not happy with the attention.

“Again, I request that you remove my name, photographs and any reference to me from this and any associated publications unless you specifically obtain my permission. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Sincerely,” ~Darragh L 10.07.06 - 10:24 pm

“Hi Darragh, Thanks for stopping by. We have no control over the pictures that have been posted. You need to address your concerns to "anotherone", but I am curious....are you currently posting with the Misfits in the kitchen? If so, that's probably how you wound up being featured on the slideshow. If you are not, I agree, your picture should be removed and I believe "anotherone" is honorable enough to do that.” ~Mabel 10.07.06 - 11:10 pm

"Mabel: Thanks for the warm welcome. Would you tell me how to contact "anotherone"? Should the administrator of this weblog check their stats, they'd find that my I.P. address hasn't been seen here before. I haven't visited (outside of tonight) any of the other weblogs referenced in this comment section, but if you saw the places my keyboard takes me I don't think you'd be offended in the least. I believe that I'm associated because of an email I received over a year ago when the distribution list wasn't supressed. I'll never forget opening it and thinking that I'd be revisiting that moment again one day. Peace,"
~Darragh L 10.07.06 - 11:39 pm

"Thanks, Darragh, Anotherone visits here and is certain to see your comments. I'm sure she will respond to you." ~Mabel 10.07.06 - 11:44 pm

"Mabel: Thanks. I'm looking forward to a response. Have a great evening!"
Darragh L 10.07.06 - 11:50 pm

The response:

"Announcing Darragh with TDSS August 13, 2006, Sunday
hxxp://damnedstripedshirt.blogspot.com/2006/08/tree-hugging-with-tdss.html
Link is NOT SAFE Loretta's blogspot url"

[A ThumbSnap photo of a woman next to a tree with Loretta's striped shirt on her arm was inserted here.]

"At 5:18 PM, Lisa said...
I love it that MTWoman has on a striped top, too."
StopLying (Shina) 10.07.06 - 11:55 pm

(This post surprised me as much as anyone else. I don't recall Shina ever mentioning the referenced URL or the photo in the previous night's chat session. Whether or not Shina knew about the site at the time is unclear. In any event, it appeared that Shina wasn't about to back down.)

Shina's succeeding program with a neverending theme:

Wednesday, October 25, 2006
"Hey Loretta what was that about a glass roof and shit? Yeah I thought so bitch. Choke on a Dick and Die Crack Whore."

Thursday, October 26, 2006
"Hundreds of people LOATHE you Loretta.
Not dislike or even hate they LOATHE you and for good reason!"

Friday, October 27, 2006
"How do you solve a problem like Loretta?"

Saturday, October 28, 2006
"I know what exactly? That you're (Darragh) a Lying Fucktard Stalker just like your friend Loretta Serrano? I hope the "mutts" hand you your ass if you continue to stalk them. Didn't your Grandma tell you it's not nice to stalk? Yeah well the dumb bitch should have, just sayin'."

Monday, October 30, 2006
"Is it a coincidence that the original owner of the flame blogs full of lies was published by a loser nicknamed Jane Truth but now calls herself Truth Teller? Pshyeah Anne Curi my ass. You Veroxxxx Prior created those blogs for Loretta D Serrano. C'mon Zero own it!"

Friday, November 03, 2006 (Double header)
To Vero: "Zero I'm not the one full of hatred and stupidity. You need to turn your old boney finger around. I don't hate easily but I do hate you and Loretta, not dislike, hate bitch I hate you."

To Darragh: "Why do you assume it's me that is posting your picture? Even if I tell you it's not you're going to believe it is because Loretta and Vero say so right? Loretta and Vero love to attach my name and image to shit that has never been done or posted by me. So yes Mtnwmn I know exactly how it feels and is why I posted what I did on your blog as Chin Up."

Saturday, November 04, 2006
"Not only did I see and save the first nick JANE TRUTH on the hate blogs so did many other people. Trying to rewrite history again Loretta CrackWhore Serrano."

Darragh Lawrenece / Mtnwmn ~October 30,2006 18:02 GMT - I don't even know who the hell you are much less give two shits if I have power over you or not, you've mistaken me for someone like Loretta Serrano. And before you accuse me of stalking you again YOU DARRAGH LINKED THAT PAGE on your ...shina-hart.blogspot.com/2006/10

Shina didn't know who Mtnwmn was, but Darragh most assuredly had Shina pegged:

“Every time you post my photograph on the internet you draw a little arrow toward your head. There's a little cartoon balloon next to it. Inside of the cartoon balloon it reads (here, let me spell it out): "I'm a fucking idiot. I don't know the difference between fantasy and reality." ~mtnwmn 10/28/06

"No matter how I try to undo the harm I caused it will never be good enough for some. To those that have remained my friend though [sic] out all of this thank you. Like always we have email, IM and the phone! My battle with Loretta has been over for months, she's dead to me.

Goodbye hate war for the last time."
Samantha 11.14.06 - 8:09 pm

If you’re not confused, you haven’t been paying attention.

Shina didn’t know Mtnwmn was NOT Mgt. Shina didn’t know Anne was NOT Loretta. Shina didn’t know Vero was NOT TruthTeller!

I know for certain that no one asked Shina to find Mgt or mtnwmn. She did it on her own and everyone else got caught up in what SHE initiated. It’s the same unconscionable, reckless behavior that has been repeated over and over.

“Darragh denies knowing the misfits but her blog shows several comments from the misfits. Darragh also takes the stripped [sic] shirt on vacation but claims she doesn't know the misfits. She doesn't subscribe this "hate war" but she is close friends with the blogger named Jane Truth? But has now deleted the comments by Jane Truth?

Jane Truth was the originator of the hate blogs, changed her nickname to Truth Teller? Vero has a blog on blogsource calling herself Jane Truth? Surely the fits don't think we're so stupid we can't figure out two plus two equals four! Damn you both, I stood up for you! If I was able I'd spit in your faces!”
Hurt (Shina) 11.01.06 - 9:47 pm

Shina Hart is NOT a victim! She creates friction, spreads it around and then thrives on the progressive hostility. Shina has one of the worst character flaws known to society... she’s a flaming liar!

About This Blog : Shina Hart Fights Off Crazed Stalker
Loretta Serrano Dillon of misfittingdotcom who refuses to stop harassing and stalking her and her family. This blog will be used to keep record of Loretta Serrano's threats, stalking and lies.
Purpose: Taking back the web, one stalker at a time.

How prudent of Shina to create a blog in order to keep record of Loretta’s threats. Law enforcement officers will counsel you that evidence is the key factor in building a case against a stalker. They will also caution you not to engage in any further dialogue with the offender. If Shina did have a federal marshal investigate the two phone calls, you can bet a week’s pay he offered the same advice.

So, what do we have? Two alleged phone calls that by her own admission traced back to Brazil. One call was apparently so intolerable that Shina’s estranged father drove over fifty miles to her grandparents in order to confirm Shina’s safety. Phone calls that Shina didn’t publicly complain about until two months after the fact when she curiously attached their significance to a blog that she was obsessed with. And whatever happened to the photo Loretta allegedly sent Shina?

“Every time the photo about my son is mentioned my heart hits my knees. I'll never understand why people insist on seeing that photo. Call me whatever you will, I don't care, that picture is long since destroyed and will never see the light of day by my own hand.” ~Samantha 11.14.06 - 8:07 pm

Either Shina’s priorities are disordered, or that photo was another figment of her imagination!

The Runaway Train - Part 4

2007-08-11T09:04:00.000-04:00

From: Shina
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007
Subject: I'm done

Maybe I'm overly sensitive and misunderstanding you but it seems you were upset with me tonight. First you question why I responded to the blog update without elaborating why you asked. When I asked you about it in chat you ignored me. Mr G and I are chatting about you this whole time, even threw you a few compliments, still no response from you. The only time you joined in was to correct me which was fine. Because I was sure she did ask that but if not my mistake.

When you cut and pasted her exact words and said you went back over the transcript. I asked if you saved the chats and IMs. But before I could explain why I asked you ( I was going to see if you'd send last night's chat to Mr G that way I wouldn't have to recap it and get something else wrong), you cut me off with your explaining yourself in detail statement finished with a Are We Clear? That sounded condescending as hell to me. So I told you I didn't like your tone and asked if you have a problem with me..you just leave.

I'm fine with you not agreeing with me about "nameless". I'm fine with you not agreeing with me about Anita and Katie. Really I thought it worked to our advantage because both bases where being covered. But I'm not fine with being spoken to like a child. The only time I've heard that expression was by a judge and even though he wasn't speaking to me, he was clearly using an authoritative tone.

You tell me time and time again to stop looking for the owners of that blog. You pointed out how I wasn't the lone ranger in this as if I thought I was or something. Then you agree I need a break from the blog. That damn blog isn't even about me and I was only trying to help, but to hell with it. I'm not so damn stupid to know when I'm not wanted or when somebody is only around to babysit me.

"Someone from misfitting asked me in private for the URL of the website that is harrassing you. ~Barbara - 1/27/07 @ 9:58 pm"

(What's interesting about this request is that Shina had only mentioned harassing phone calls and emails before Barbara's inquiry. I don't see any reference to a hate blog in Shina's 9:07 pm or 9:42 pm emails: Shifting Gears - Part 3

Either Barbara is telepathic or Shina was selective in what she chose to circulate. Considering Loretta and Anne were frequent visitors to the spite blog immediately after its inauguration, Barbara need only ask the misfits for directions.)

My email response:
To: Shina
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007

I don't have the time to run through your long list of complaints just now.

Here's my story. You will never have any idea how paralyzed I was when I saw the lyrics you posted at the pound. It completely knocked the wind out of me because I thought you brought them over from the bash blog when I read the word "update". I was suspended in time with all kinds of thoughts racing through my mind thinking this individual was a freaking dangerous maniac who was intent on scaring the shit out of me. I was convinced I needed to contact the FBI for crying out loud.

I did not understand your comments whatsoever so I checked my email to see if you sent me a copy of the update, but nothing was there. I couldn't imagine what was in the update that warranted such a reaction from you if that were the case. I had no idea what was going on. And you did answer me when I asked what prompted you to react that way in IM. If I remember correctly, you said, "Because I wanted to."

Not to mention that you and I had a couple of rounds about exactly what "nameless" said regarding Gene the previous night, yet you insisted on casting her in an unfavorable light. That isn't right. I really like you and have had some of the greatest chats with you, but I'm getting mixed messages that I do not fully understand. My nerves are shot. I'm taking a break. You don't have an exclusive on injured feelings.

(I sent an email to Max apologizing for leaving chat so abruptly. I explained that I decided it was best to leave the session before I said something I may later regret. Max replied that he understood and indicated he was also taken aback by Shina's conduct. He confirmed Shina's explanation with regard to her questioning whether I saved a copy of the chat transcript. I wasn't buying Shina's lame excuse in light of the fact she habitually modified the same details within hours of being cautioned. Furthermore, how did Shina know I wasn't paraphrasing?)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"oh and ps, anyone who thinks that Mrs V, Shippy or Sam (or anyone who is in similar shoes) doesn't have the right to take on whomever they perceive their "attacker" to be needs to have their own nose smacked a time or two.

You crack me up, Sam! That whole T chick thing was a good lesson in not putting 2 and 2 together and automatically coming up with 4. In this case it was 3.5 pppfffttt.

This whole internet stalking business, including impersonating someone's name in order to defame them, is a work in progress and perhaps these examples (as well as the millions of others out there I'm sure) will help in defining some more concrete laws in dealing with those who feel they have the right to do as they please on the internet." ~anony4damoment 02.08.07 - 10:02 am

“I want to know who the owner of the latest defamation blog is. I do. I can't help it. Blame it on either natural curiosity or call me an incredibly nosey person. I don't care. I want to know who has betrayed us now. We've always had a policy not to reveal RL info about anyone who posts here, but what about this person's nic? Is there anything wrong with revealing this person's nic?”
Anonymous 02.08.07 - 10:39 am

Also...I am curious about who set the new blog up too...I am confused about why it's a big "secret". ~Anonymess 02.08.07 - 11:07 am

“I don't think the identity of the person(s) responsible for the C-V blog is known for absolute certainty. At this point it is about 99% based upon a number of identifiable points which include clues from content and writing style and others. Not being like Loretta, those in the know are not yet willing to jump to conclusion based upon 1% doubt.” ~Anonymous 02.08.07 - 11:16 am

(A closer look at writing style:)

From: ”Tribute” Blog - Saturday, January 27, 2007 "Fuckoff and die."

From: http://shina-hart.blogspot.com/ - Sunday, November 05, 2006
"---fuckoffanddieloretta---"

“I feel really sorry far Sam...she has had a really tough time with all of this, and now I don't think she knows who she can trust.”
are you sure 02.08.07 - 5:43 pm

“Sam...I am sorry you had to change your site. I enjoyed it and learned a few things.” ~Anonymess 02.08.07 - 7:07 pm

“I don't give a damn about Loretta and her gang anymore. I don't come here for them. I come here for the friends I've made because of them. If one of those friends is having a problem with Loretta, then I'm thankful BG keeps this place open for them to gather support from people who've probably been in their shoes. If comments slow down on the blog, that's fine too. To me it means all is well with everybody. I miss you folks though.

I hate how we can't share more of ourselves on here for fear of being stalked or what have you. Just when I think "oh great everybody has grown up" nooooo here comes another asshole packing an anonymous hate blog. People who still create anonymous hate blogs aren't worth saving from a fire. If they're too chicken shit to put their name on it, or contact their stalkee to work on the problem, then to hell with them imo. I'm in a mood. Hope y'all are having a better weekend than us. One of furbabies had to be put to sleep and I'm heartbroken.” ~Samantha 02.11.07 - 7:01 pm

“BabyGirl thank you for helping me through the past few days. You have no idea how much you've helped. You were right, it's good days and bad days. After the past two I'm praying for a good one tomorrow. I can't stop thinking about what we discussed on the phone about that lady and her family. I can't imagine having those fears and feelings. Lets talk soon K?

BTW, I don't know why the email can't be posted or linked here, hell maybe it can, haven't heard one way or another. But the last time I linked something that wasn't mine I got a long email telling me what a shit I was for doing so. This time I'm not taking any chances. Sorry I can't help those that haven't seen it.

Anyway I'm past the drama from both sides, still have opinions of course, but as far as giving a damn I don't. That is until the newer cowards grow a pair or a brain and claim their hate blog to work this shit out. At least the hobags over there put a name on their hate blogs. It's on these cowards to live with the fact they've stooped even lower than Loretta Serrano or Anne Curi. I'd rather be dead than to be known for that, just sayin.” ~Samantha 02.12.07 - 2:22 am

(The following is my response to an Anonymous poster who had addressed me earlier with some thoughts of her own and a few questions:)

“Dear Anonymous,
Recognizing that given the same set of facts people react differently based upon their personal experiences or beliefs. I will attempt to respond to your points through my perspective. My apologies for taking so long to reply.

Re: The Peterson trial
Personally, It doesn’t matter to me that Loretta wrote a blook about the Peterson case although I have no desire to read it. My lack of enthusiasm doesn’t stem from the fact that she’s the author, but because I followed the case, read the pertinent transcripts, and I’m satisfied with the verdict. What I fail to comprehend is the energy Loretta expends trying to convince people Mark Geragos is incompetent as though she’s Clarence Darrow. Does she think Scott Peterson was found guilty because of an unskilled attorney? It may be over for you and I, Anonymous, but not for someone who can’t accept criticism after positioning herself in the public arena. Particularly when that person painstakingly found fault with the competition. Something I have yet to see Catherine Crier or any other Peterson authors indulge in.

Re: Trader Joe and Muah
I don’t know why you feel these individuals screwed me over. I have not seen any evidence to support that theory. There has been what I consider irresponsible speculation, which could apply to either camp when analyzed with any degree of objectivity. Whether or not the above named negotiated a deal with Loretta doesn’t affect me. I did not participate in any mediation and I’m responsible for my own decisions.

Re: I don't care about Loretta, anymore
Neither do I, but when a person spends three years saturating a weblog with personal details of her life, she should expect that whatever information she chose to put out there is subject to controversy, commentary and critique. If Loretta thinks she can curb the scuttlebutt she herself introduced to the general public on so many venues, then she’s either out to lunch or has undergone a frontal lobotomy. What troubles me is that a nondescript exhibitionist from Ohio has the ability to compile and publish personal information about anyone associated with her target that are not involved with her professed issues.

(Note: It is not my intent to offend anyone with the links I post. They are merely examples of what is still circulating around the Internet compliments of Stalker Serrano.)

http://www.mailarchive.ca/lists/misc.legal/2005-10/3191.html

(Please note the spelling of "neighbor".)

It's astonishing to see so many trivial details compiled about one poster. It isn't normal. After viewing this moronic list, I do not blame the person for making a phone call." To be continued. ~Mrs V 02.13.07 - 1:19 am

“Dear Anonymous,
Re: I don't care about Loretta, anymore , continued.
Loretta Serrano is not tightly wrapped, but she’s isn’t alone in that distinction. She is, however, the only one I have seen in action and possibly the most prolific menace I have ever read about. As long as she continues to indiscriminately circulate and publish unauthorized personal information, she is a threat to society at large and a danger to herself. One of these days, she will most assuredly push the wrong buttons and pay the consequences. Until then, she has learned nothing. If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of Loretta Serrano’s troubles, she wouldn’t sit for months.

Once information is published on the WWW, there is no control over it. For example, a company called Bitacle thought it would be fun to make cache copies of entire blogs. If a "tribute" blog was created in your name, chances are it is still intact:

http://en.bitacle.org/

The longer the information remains public, the better the chances are of it falling into the wrong hands. The only solution I can think of is stricter laws that are carefully formulated in terms of not violating freedom of speech. Barring an epidemic of Amy Boyer cases, I don’t see that happening on a federal level anytime soon. However, Ohio’s statute is a step in the right direction considering it holds the primary source of the published information responsible. I have conclusive evidence that Loretta Serrano is at fault for the initial publication of my personal detailed information. If I were she, I’d be keeping my fingers crossed this nonsense doesn’t escalate any further.

Re: Do you have a goal in mind of what you want to accomplish at this point?
Yes, I do. My immediate focus is to protect my family’s privacy. As of last Thursday that mission is in very capable hands. I have every confidence the goals set forth at the meeting will be accomplished. In the words of Samantha Fox… “The best is yet to come.” The impostor can run that through her YouTube and push play!

PS – I’m not at all offended by what you have written and I thank you for being on my side, Anonymous.” Edited By Siteowner ~Mrs V 02.13.07 - 2:17 am

(Note: Until a few months ago, the Bitacle site had copies of all "tribute" blogs (including photos) that were published by TruthTeller aka Anne from Brazil. Bitacle has since disabled access to those archives. There is no doubt in my mind that another company will come along and do the same thing in terms of stockpiling and publishing complete blog archives. That's the nature of the Wild Wild Web.)

“BabyGirl Sorry to hear you're still sick with this crud. I called you earlier to see how you were feeling. Was hoping you were better by now. Guess not dang. When I got your message it was too late to call back so I didn't. I'll call ya tomorrow. Hope you're resting. Love You.”
Samantha 02.13.07 - 3:32 am

“hahaha. This should be good. Bring it on, Charlene. You are truly out of your mind.” ~loretta 02.13.07 - 8:14 am

“Dear Mrs V, Do you believe Loretta is still stalking?”
Anonymous 02.13.07 - 10:39 am

(Dear Anonymous, Nah! Loretta just has incredible timing!)

"It's astonishing to see so many trivial details compiled about one poster. It isn't normal. After viewing this moronic list, I do not blame the person for making a phone call."

“Heck, after seeing so many trivial details compiled about one poster, I’m inclined to send that poster a refund on the toll charge incurred for making that phone call. I do not believe that the majority of people who jumped down said poster’s throat were aware of just how psycho things were getting for her and her family.”
anony4damoment 02.13.07 - 11:25 am

“I can guarantee that if someone posted any information about my kids on the internet I would be taking a road trip to their house to kick their fucking ass. What's the word I am looking for?????? Oh yeah...Bank on it! Sorry for the language but just the thought of it makes me crazy.
Anonymess 02.13.07 - 8:16 pm

“Rather you are involved or not, you have friends and we are here. You are respected and cared for NOT for the Low/Misfuckers Jihad but for your compassion for others and the friendship you offer to those here who have been though the shit, are going through the shit or will be a future victim of the shit (or have yourself been a victim of the shit). Names aren't important here, just feelings.

Please take a moment out of your day to thank Admin for this place because without the people that came forward when I ask, there would be no Pound. They do all the work. They keep the place clean and they take no crap..but they are fair and loving. I lucked into a great thing and I will hold onto these people until they ask for their life support to be disconnected! (of course, I'll be asking them "what do I do now"?)

Nite Mabel, where ever you are sweet girl...my love and I miss you deeply. My darling Max who will always have my heart, Louise my mentor who I adore, Lola you brainy beautiful tramp you!, Pats and Papi, I could sit here all night and write great stuff about all of you fab people but my med's are kicking in so…” ~Baby Girl 02.13.07 - 10:21 pm

“Happy V-Day to all those true blue pound puppies and kitties.
Happy vd day to the skank ho trolls and impersonators.”
anony4damoment 02.14.07 - 10:57 am

“anony4damoment you done went and cracked me up. I say you did. I hope your ole man or woman supersizes your combo meal, actually pulls into a spot to eat so you don't have to balance your fries and ketchup in one hand (that gits on my nerves) and gits you the full dozen of prutty flawers. Happy V (without the D) day to you too!” ~Samantha 02.14.07 - 12:34 pm

(Sarcasm on steroids.)

“I missed a call from Sammy so if I miss her here too (left her a voicemail) just wanna say hope you and the babies enjoy! Please remember, it's not a sad thing, it's a reminder and a loving memory of a loving being.”
Baby Girl 02.15.07 - 10:27 pm

I logged onto IM approximately a week after the final email exchange with Shina. Max was already on and we connected. I was surprised to learn that he hadn’t heard from Baby Girl throughout the previous week. He sent her a text message to let her know we were in IM, but she didn’t respond. It wasn’t his only text message that would go unanswered.

In the days that followed, Louise joined Max and myself in IM. I believe Max brought up Shina’s name once to which I responded, “I hope you understand that I consider Shina a persona non grata.” I don’t recall any mention of Shina again... until the end of April. Contrary to what Shina says, I did NOT bash her, I simply put her on ignore. She hasn’t produced evidence to support her claims because it doesn't exist.

The Runaway Train - Part 3

2007-08-08T20:34:00.000-04:00

Shina’s 7:41 sinister remarks set off an internal alarm. I had growing concerns relative to Shina’s unpredictable behavior and this post validated my anxiety. The song lyrics blatantly depict raw violence; and since they were enclosed in blockquotes I didn't know if they represented an actual update from the spite blog or a hostile response. Apparently I was the only person who couldn’t grasp the meaning behind Shina’s deranged comments inasmuch as no one else questioned it. That alone should have raised a red flag.

“Mentally Stunted Stalker with the most power blog evah! OMG you're so brave and just down right skeery. I quake in your mighty presence. Your update has me rattled! It's so so so forceful...just wow. Hopefully I'll recover. Please Ms Stalker have mercy on me even though I don't deserve your pity.”

So when you see me on your block with two glocks
Screamin _Fuck the World_ like Tupac
I just don't give a fuuuuuck!!
Talkin that shit behind my back, dirty mackin
tellin your boys that I'm on crack
I just don't give a fuuuuuck!!
So put my tape back on the rack
Go run and tell your friends my shit is wack
I just don't give a fuuuuuck!!
But see me on the street and duck
Cause you gon' get stuck, stoned, and snuffed
Cause I just don't give a fuuuuuck!!

“Please accept my lame response which is no where near as pathetic as yours. Hey at least I tried to keep it on your level. I get bonus points for that right? www .youtube.com (there was a link.) Unlike you I didn't need the written lyrics. I'm still young and can HEAR the music ahem. Because I care, no really I do, I'm supplying the "meat" of the song for you. You don't get hip hop, it's ok, it's not for everyone. But when you want to use it to "speak" to people, you should have some knowledge of it just sayin'. If had taken the time to understand the song you posted....well you wouldn't have used it Next time stick with a more familar era like Ms. Summers :snort:

PS Don't trust your "source" darling. Oh you forgot this isn't my first rodeo heh!”
Samantha 02.07.07 - 7:41 pm

The next two comments only added to the confusion...

“For those who watch the video. Isn't it ironic that it's starts with a wicked granny bullying a child? Ms Stalker, You really do want to be just like them over there don't cha? You didn't think their actions were bad. You were just insanely jealous you wasn't invited to their tree house to play. If there's somebody to be pitied, it's you.” ~Samantha 02.07.07 - 7:49 pm

“Since finding out who Ms Stalker is I'm now officially bored with her. Hide and seek on the Internet is only fun when you have a worthy opponent. Ms Stalker has proved to be a rather large disappointment.” ~Samantha 02.07.07 - 8:16 pm

"Come on, Samantha, quit being so nice. Who is it? I'm dying to know."
Anonymous 02.07.07 - 9:01 pm

I contacted Shina through IM. She was in high spirits in contrast to her agitated state the previous evening. She was excited about an upcoming shopping spree because she had $5000.00 at her disposal. The announcement came as a mild surprise since she had recently indicated that her financial status prevented her from reinstating her driver’s license as well as putting a damper on any further investigation of the alleged phone calls.

I most likely congratulated Shina on her reversal of fortune and then I cut to the chase. I explained that I was confused by her posts at The Pound. I questioned whether the lyrics she had referenced actually came from the spite blog. When she replied in the negative, I then asked what on earth prompted such a hostile reaction from her. She didn’t seem to understand the question, so I repeated it, “What made you respond the way you did?” Shina’s explanation: “Because I wanted to.”

The discussion was interrupted by an invitation from Max to join chat. I had been following an interesting news story with Max and when I entered the chat room, he provided links to either updates or related articles. I went to the URLs and read.

When I returned to chat, I scrolled back to catch up. It was shocking to read how Shina continued to misrepresent the facts in defiance of being advised otherwise. As she slammed “nameless”, her version was saturated with exaggeration, distortion and flat out lies. It appeared as though Max was buying her propaganda. As I caught up to the end of the transcript, Shina was once again repeating the falsehood I had corrected her on.

I wrote: “That is NOT what was said.”
Shina wrote: “What was said then?”

After I transmitted the exact phrase, Shina asked if I had the transcript. I replied, “NO, I don’t have the transcript.” I reminded her how we had gone a few rounds over this very same detail last night. I spelled out how I scrolled back up and copied the exact words before logging off because I sensed it still hadn’t sunk in with her. I ended with, “Are we clear?”

When Shina responded by saying she didn’t like my attitude and suggested I had a problem with her, I left chat. As far as I was concerned, any further discussion would be an exercise in futility. I had corrected her over and over the previous night and she still couldn’t get it straight. It had nothing to do with a faulty recollection, it had everything to do with the reality that the truth didn’t conform to her agenda. If her memory was that deficient, how did she recognize that I transmitted the precise words? I could have been paraphrasing for all she knew. There’s only one answer to that question. Shina remembered exactly what was said, but chose to lie about it.

Notice how Shina changes her tune AFTER the dispute. Again, she integrates November phone calls with a blog that was created a month AFTER the calls were purportedly made. . .

”Sam...I noticed on the below link from Ms. V that your name is no longer on that blog. ~Anonymess 02.07.07 - 9:04 pm”

“I'm still on that ridiculous excuse for a blog. It's always been clear I'm not their main target. And really they don't say anything bad about me on it. What pissed me off was number one they were attacking my friends. Number two they had the nerve to call me and somebody in my family. I wanted the bitches to know they had my full attention.

Now that they can only post videos, lyrics and other idiotic bullshit for fear (cowards..eh) somebody will recognize their writing styles, I couldn't care less about them. They've been spayed with a butter knife...Youch! Sucks to be them.”
Samantha 02.08.07 - 12:58 am

”Come on, Samantha, quit being so nice. Who is it? I'm dying to know. Anonymous 02.07.07 - 9:01 pm”

“Oh trust me it's not me being nice, I'd exposed them long ago. Because I respect the wishes of my friends they will remain nameless until everybody is ready to out them. Or until the cowards get a backbone and put a signature on their blog...yeah right.” ~Samantha 02.08.07 - 1:06 am

LOL, how considerate! But, whatever happened to that 99.9% vote of confidence?

"sammie - u can ignore dat email i sent you bout the T chick... problem resolved. many t'anks do. lmao... it be hard to type in accent huh?
anony4damoment 02.07.07 - 12:05 am"

“Honeychild let me tell ya. :dramatic fanning of my face: I gets so flustered trying to keep up with y'alls big city speak, I nearabout have an episode. So I know how ya feel when taking on somebody elses accents. I've give it more than one thunk over about riting dem English people about their so called proper speaking ways. Well I swanny there aint nuttin (that looks ugly but it's not meant thataway) proper about having episodes trying to carry on a conversation with big city folks. It's darn right embarrassin at times, I say it is.

Its mighty refreshin to see somebody besides myself 'round here appreciate us southerns and tha pains we go through to express ourselves. I want ta thank you precious for tha smile you brought to my face. Bless em aint dey sweet yall?”
Samantha 02.08.07 - 1:45 am

“See dar? I done forgot da oder part of your post because I was so overwhelmed by your understandin. Bout that T person. I was all confused but now Is not. Thanks very much for lettin me know it were ok for me to be confused bout dat.”
Samantha 02.08.07 - 1:50 am

Sarcasm in overdrive!

The Runaway Train - Part 2

2007-08-07T00:15:00.000-04:00

"Can the person who left me an im while I was away log in if they're on now?"
Samantha 02.06.07 - 11:15 pm

When I finally connected with Shina in IM, she had a laundry list of gripes about what had been posted at The Pound by "are you sure" and other people. The following remarks sent her into another tailspin. She insisted the individual was ridiculing her and consequently took offense. In fact, Shina's pique is later reflected in her response to these comments.

“sammie - u can ignore dat email i sent you bout the T chick... problem resolved. many t'anks do. lmao... it be hard to type in accent huh?”
anony4damoment 02.07.07 - 12:05 am

A chat session was opened when we noticed someone who I shall refer to as "nameless" had logged onto IM. "Nameless" hasn't participated at The Pound since. Shina did not like the individual and started to IM me concurrently, each time taking cheap shots at “nameless”. After "Nameless" logged off, Shina summarized the details of our group discussion. Her version didn’t match my recollection of events and I told her as much. Nevertheless, she kept repeating her rendition throughout the night, which I corrected each time.

Shina’s focus was riveted on the impersonation blog despite my frequent advice to forget about it. She allowed a stupid nonsensical blog to control her emotions, and frankly, I couldn’t understand why. At some point during the conversation, Shina stated, “I didn’t know you and Andrea are friends!”

I asked where that came from and she indicated that I had left comments at Andrea’s blog in January. I explained that I remembered Andrea from misfitting and I enjoyed her photo journal of “First Night in Boston” so I composed a message thanking her for the tour. I added that I had written Andrea sometime in May asking for advice about the Boston area and that Andrea had been cordial as well as helpful.

Shina interrupted my explanation with, “I didn’t know you were a misfit!” This outburst caught me by surprise because I never hid the fact I had posted at misfitting and to my knowledge everyone else knew it. Shina claimed she wasn’t active for awhile and probably didn’t pay much attention. I began to explain how I came upon misfitting during the Peterson trial and subsequently left within months.

Again, Shina interrupted me by remonstrating that while she threw these things out there, she was offended by my clarifications. That’s when I called it a night. But before I logged off, I scrolled up to retrieve the exact words from the discussion that Shina continuously revised as a point of contention.

I had a hunch I would be needing them.

“I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.” - Robert McCloskey

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“When the truce thing was first mentioned..I had hoped that maybe, just maybe that freak had seen the light...Maybe some day she will.”
Anonymess 02.07.07 - 7:01 am

“The only light "she devil" will ever see will be from the flames of hell in the hereafter.” ~Anonymous 02.07.07 - 9:38 am

"ahem... keep in mind that from all Sam has said that it may not be the one who will be reading from the lights of hell who is responsible for the newest load of crap. And other than Annie-bannie-fofannie et al hanging around the truce with "she devil" may be holding... based on what Sam has been able to say. I don't give a whole lot of credit to the notion she's changed, but let's not throw sticks if it's a new pot stirrer.... just sayin'”
anony4damoment 02.07.07 - 11:47 am

Having grown frustrated with the following posters search for the (two-month-old) "new" Holy Grail, I posted a link to the bash blog. I had watched the traffic flow to Hall of Shame from that site since Shina opened the floodgate. It was beyond my comprehension how anyone didn’t know where it was at this point.

"calm down, we know about those things you mention...it is the new blog that is suppose to be some where. ~are you sure 02.06.07 - 8:41 pm"

“I'm not certain if this is what you are looking for, but here it is in all its glory: cxaxlxnx-vxgxixtxi.blogspot.com. If you think identity theft isn't stalking then you and I have incompatible viewpoints, are you sure. If you approve of putting a young man on the WWW public auction block just because he's related to the target, then I am unable to comprehend your definition of stalking. If the content of that site makes any sense to you whatsoever, then I look forward to debating the issue with you.

The original posting of the URL was deleted in short order at my request for reasons I will not elaborate on. However, news travels faster than lightspeed on the cyber-highway and you appear to be the only one left in the dark.

It is not my intention to be rude, but this has evolved into a family matter, which was a critical mistake on the part of the perpetrator. Hence, family will deal with it accordingly

Stay healthy and warm, everyone!” Edited By Siteowner
Mrs V 02.07.07 - 1:02 pm

Note: “are you sure” had been begging for directions to the bash site for days. I provided the route, and this is what I got. Go figure!

“Mrs V, Don't get all fired up... You can't even tell when people are trying to give you support. If that is the way you have taken my post, then that is what you have chosen to do...I do not wish you get into anything with you, have a nice life, your battle is all yours...” ~are you sure 02.07.07 - 4:58 pm

"If it's really a former "pound pup" starting more problems with Sam, my money's on DLG (aka Dana) who started the Puppy Spa. My guess is the whole "spa" thing was done for her friend Loretta Serrano who she promptly allowed to join. Anyone else notice how DLG quickly disappeared when the shit hit the fan? ~anonymous 02.01.07 - 10:25 am"

“The enemy, Admin, isn't just a narcissist in Ohio, it's also the paranoia and stupidity of weak minds. It's vomit like the above that trashes good groups just as much as whatever is going on with the stalkers. (snip)” ~DLG 02.07.07 - 4:58 pm

Point well taken!